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The Next Generation (sort of)

jwthought Aug 08, 2005 11:39 PM

Here's some pics of my recently rescued jacksonii, Kip and Lafawn-duh. Clearly the female is in much better condition, but Kip has make tremendous improvements since i first bought them about 2 weeks ago. They get showers every other day, along with constant spray downs, and drippers. I'm trying to be very aggressive with their hydration. They both eat great, though. So here they are. Not the best pic of the male, Kip. Hopefully, Lola will watch over them.
Josh

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gomezvi Aug 09, 2005 10:45 AM

Although they're not in tip-top shape, they don't look too bad, either. Xantholopus can weather some extreme conditions; hopefully they'll regain their full health soon under your care.
Very nice yellows on the male. Do you know if these are wild caught? Just from the size of them and coloration, my impression is that these are WC Hawaiian Jacksons. Is the female gravid? I'm willing to bet that she more than likely is.
I haven't had Jacksons in a couple years now, but my experience with them is that they like cooler temps and LOTS of humidity. I used to keep my Jacksons with my bonsai. I would water my bonsai constantly, which made the Jacksons VERY happy.
My VERY first experience with chameleons was with Jacksons when I lived in Hawaii. I knew NOTHING about their care. The neighborhood kids would just bring some over that they would find. I had a very rickety home made cage in my backyard where I would keep them, made from 1x1 wood covered in aluminum screen. I would put in fresh branches from my banyan tree in with them once a week. Their food would be bugs (mostly roaches) that I would flush out of my yard! Sometimes the females would give me babies, which I would release into my trees and bushes as quickly as I could. I never used calcium supplements, I never used powdered vitamins. I definitely didn't gutload the bugs! I would just scoop them up into the cage by the fistfuls! I accidentally fed a scorpion to them once like this but I wouldn't try this at home!
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Victor Gomez
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jwthought Aug 09, 2005 03:53 PM

Thanks for the reply. Yeah they are not 100% yet, but Im confident I can get them there. I am really happy with their progrees to this point, especially the female.

At what age can females be gravid? She is still young likely less than a year old. They were housed together at the pet store I found them at, but they were in absolutley terrible conditions. I dont see how they could have bred. I havent weighed her since she was at the vet, but she was only 29 grams at the time. She's alson only about 3-4 inchec SVL.

The male is a bit longer and heavier than her, but not by much. He is roughly 4-4 1/2 inches SVL, and weight 41 grams at the vet. That was about 2 weeks ago, though, and I'm postive they have both put on weight since then. I'll weigh them again soon, though.

I don't know for sure, but I agree that they are WC animals. She is kept in a 100 gallon repatarium, and he is in a 38g reptarium. I had him in there while he was really weak and sick at the beginning, but now he is really active and is all over the screen, so I need to get a larger enclosure ASAP. I do now have a vacant 175g repatarium that my veiled was in, but do you think that would be too large for him at this point? I would clean it thoroughly, of course before I put him in there.

I do supplement them 2X a week. Once with D3 calcium and once with non-d3 calcium. I plan on only giving them vitamins maybe once a month, as they are on a really well gutloaded diet. Thanks again for the response.

Josh

gomezvi Aug 09, 2005 04:23 PM

Female Jacksons are capable of breeding at a very young age. WC females are almost ALWAYS gravid and retain sperm. How do you think they became established in HI so quickly?
I don't think a 175 gallon reptarium would be too big for your jackson. Of course if you free range his prey items, he might have a hard time finding it all.
One thing that I noticed about Jacksons (at least with the WC Jacksons that I had) was that they 'talk' a lot to each other. The males will display to one another, and the females (of course). They also have this thing they do, where they raise their heads and do a fast jerking action while putting on their most GORGEOUS colors. Very subtle (and sometimes not so subtle) variations in turquoise, lemon-greens, and high yellows. The females will also talk back to the boys, usually with a jerky side-to-side motion, which basically mean 'back off Jack, I'm not interested!'. Always talking though.
>>Thanks for the reply. Yeah they are not 100% yet, but Im confident I can get them there. I am really happy with their progrees to this point, especially the female.
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>>At what age can females be gravid? She is still young likely less than a year old. They were housed together at the pet store I found them at, but they were in absolutley terrible conditions. I dont see how they could have bred. I havent weighed her since she was at the vet, but she was only 29 grams at the time. She's alson only about 3-4 inchec SVL.
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>>The male is a bit longer and heavier than her, but not by much. He is roughly 4-4 1/2 inches SVL, and weight 41 grams at the vet. That was about 2 weeks ago, though, and I'm postive they have both put on weight since then. I'll weigh them again soon, though.
>>
>>I don't know for sure, but I agree that they are WC animals. She is kept in a 100 gallon repatarium, and he is in a 38g reptarium. I had him in there while he was really weak and sick at the beginning, but now he is really active and is all over the screen, so I need to get a larger enclosure ASAP. I do now have a vacant 175g repatarium that my veiled was in, but do you think that would be too large for him at this point? I would clean it thoroughly, of course before I put him in there.
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>>I do supplement them 2X a week. Once with D3 calcium and once with non-d3 calcium. I plan on only giving them vitamins maybe once a month, as they are on a really well gutloaded diet. Thanks again for the response.
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>> Josh
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Victor Gomez
gomezvi@yahoo.com

schwartzenstobe Aug 11, 2005 09:38 AM

Good job on the rescues. had a question though. did you purchase them from the pet store or did thet give them to you because they were in bad shape. i have been tempted to rescue from the store but are not sure how to approach them. thanks matt

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