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  <title>Suggestion:Kids &amp; Herps Pic Category</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by OliveJewel &mdash; 2011-09-20 18:50:34 GMT</p><p>I love the picture of the little girl with the grey-banded kingsnake on the main page.  How about a photo category that is just Kids and Herps?  Or am I missing one that is already there?<br />
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My skinks:<br />
1.1.1 Corucia zebrata (Berman and Joni, baby Charlemagne)<br />
1.2.2 Eumeces schneideri (Kaa, Cochisa and their babies; Mabel)<br />
0.0.4 Egernia striolata</p></div>
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  <title>VA Press: Turtles allegedly terrorized</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by  &mdash; 2011-07-12 12:24:21 GMT</p><p><b><u>WVEC</u></b> (Norfolk, Virginia) 04 July 11  <i>Turtles allegedly terrorized in Va. Beach neighborhood</i> (David Ham)<br />
Virginia Beach:  The Virginia Beach SPCA and Animal Control had to get involved to warn kids living in an Oceanfront neighborhood to stop terrorizing turtles.<br />
People living in the Seabridge Square neighborhood say that for months, children have been baiting turtles with wild berries and beating them with sticks.<br />
Neighbors say there are three turtles. One is estimated to weigh about 60 pounds.<br />
&quot;They're not doing it for play.  They're not doing it just to feed the turtles.  They're being cruel to the turtles,&quot; said Cierra Reardon.<br />
Reardon called the SPCA. Animal control was eventually called and an officer went door to door to talk to parents and their kids about leaving the turtles alone.<br />
&quot;It's just a real problem and a concern to us because a lot of these parents from what she said are even aware that these kids are interacting with this animal,&quot; said Amy McNally, Virginia Beach SPCA.<br />
Beth Richardson says she's warned some of the children who go near the turtles that they also bite.<br />
&quot;It could snap your finger off.&quot;<br />
She's hoping that with the visit from Animal Control the kids have learned their lesson not to mess with nature.<br />
&quot;This is an ongoing problem and people are gonna' have to know right from wrong.  You can only teach people so much,&quot; said Richardson.<br />
The Virginia Beach SPCA says that if anyone in the neighborhood sees the children harming the turtles they should file a complaint with Animal Control.<br />
<a href="http://www.wvec.com/news/Turtles-terrorized-in-Virginia-Beach-neighborhood-124979149.html">Turtles allegedly terrorized in Va. Beach neighborhood</a></p></div>
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  <title>CT: Reptile Wrangler shows off exotics</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by EricWI &mdash; 2011-07-05 18:26:43 GMT</p><p><b>Reptile wrangler shows off exotic animals to students</b></p>
<p>Colchester, Conn. — The cockroach that crawled on the floor of Cragin Memorial Library’s Norton Room was not an invading pest, but merely a snack for a visiting bearded dragon.</p>
<p>The bearded dragon, or Pogona, is a type of lizard that Brian Kleinman, of Riverside Reptiles, brought with him to show excited children at the library’s June 23 Family Night program.</p>
<p>It took a little prodding from Kleinman, but the lizard eventually caught its snack.</p>
<p>“She’s very old,” he told the children.</p>
<p>Kleinman and his cold-blooded friends have made an annual trip to Cragin for the past several years. His show proved popular from an initial visit organized by the Community Wildlife Habitat of _Colchester.</p>
<p>Kleinman shared his knowledge about each of the animals he brought with him, such as the Chinese box turtle.</p>
<p>“Turtles can’t get out of their shells, no matter what you’ve seen in movies or cartoons,” he said.</p>
<p>Holding each animal, he circled the room so that each child got a chance to put their fingers on them.</p>
<p>“I liked the snake the best,” said Brandon Zamarron, 5, of Colchester. Like all the children, Brandon got a chance to touch most of the reptiles.</p>
<p>Encountering a turtle, frog or snake in a local habitat is possible, Kleinman told the children. But you shouldn’t try to pick them up or touch them, he said.</p>
<p>“If you see one, the best thing to do, and what I do, is just look at it. And when I’m done, I just walk around it,” he said.<br />
<a href="http://www.norwichbulletin.com/communities/colchester/x1722638321/Reptile-wrangler-shows-off-exotic-animals-to-students#axzz1RFyEKkzd" target="_blank">www.norwichbulletin.com/communities/colchester/x1722638321/Reptile-wrangler-shows-off-exotic-animals-to-students#axzz1RFyEKkzd</a></p></div>
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  <title>&apos;Critter Girl&apos; takes science into the cl</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by EricWI &mdash; 2011-03-08 16:40:01 GMT</p><p><b>'Critter Girl' takes science into the classroom</b></p>
<p>FREDERICK, Md. (AP) — Dawn Getzandanner has always been curious about creatures and credits her mother with helping her to establish early on a comfort level with all creatures, but particularly those that make a lot of people squirm.</p>
<p>Now the elementary science teacher specialist for Frederick County Public Schools, a large part of Getzandanner's job is procuring, caring for and teaching about &quot;life science organisms&quot; that she uses in teaching the county's youngest students.</p>
<p>Critters were part of Getzandanner's teaching style long before she became a science specialist. She taught third grade at Waverley and Valley elementary schools at the beginning of her career.</p>
<p>&quot;Even as a classroom teacher, I was known as the teacher with the countertops covered with every creature imaginable,&quot; she said.</p>
<p>While some people automatically thought living organisms in a classroom could be a distraction, Getzandanner found just the opposite.</p>
<p>&quot;They inspire and motivate kids,&quot; she said. &quot;And I could get kids to write about animals when writing was the last thing they wanted to do.&quot;</p>
<p>Getzandanner has a desk at the Earth and Space Science Laboratory, where she's able to care for and keep an eye on the center's nonhuman occupants. But her main role as a teacher specialist is to support the science curriculum in the county's 36 elementary schools.</p>
<p>Her job has become much more difficult thanks to the economic downturn.</p>
<p>There used to be four elementary science teacher specialists, with each assigned to assist nine schools while having a share of other work, like curriculum development.</p>
<p>Now Getzandanner is it for the entire county, and finds herself stretched thinly.</p>
<p>&quot;I'm pretty much at the beck and call of the teachers,&quot; she said. &quot;I try to get them everything they need to support the curriculum, and I provide lessons using my critters.&quot;</p>
<p>Recently, Getzandanner and a bunch of tarantulas visited Sabillasville Elementary School to give a lesson about external features.</p>
<p>Some teachers are particularly squeamish about the organisms, and Getzandanner said she makes special efforts to supply lessons for those teachers. Some teachers who are more comfortable handling the creatures have one or two on semi-permanent loan to their classrooms.</p>
<p>Many of the organisms belong to Getzandanner. About 20 of the creatures on display at the ESSL, including a bearded dragon, snakes, tarantulas and Drupal, the popular iguana, are hers.</p>
<p>Drupal is enjoying a new life at the science center after life in a household that didn't treat him properly.</p>
<p>Getzandanner found Drupal through FreeCycle, an online giveaway website.</p>
<p>&quot;He was really aggressive when I got him, and I think that was because of his habitat,&quot; Getzandanner said. &quot;Here, he has a bigger cage, and I did some research on his diet and he's probably being fed much better.&quot;</p>
<p>To help socialize Drupal, knowing that he would be subjected to constant crowds -- predominantly young children -- in his new home, Getzandanner said she would sit in front of his cage and play classical music from her cell phone.</p>
<p>&quot;It sounds crazy, but I think it helped calm him down,&quot; she said.</p>
<p>Kettle Corn and Caramel Corn are two corn snakes -- what else -- that she rescued from a pound. Another resident snake was donated after the boy who originally owned it lost interest.</p>
<p>Getzandanner is a Frederick County native who graduated from Gov. Thomas Johnson High School. She received her undergraduate and master's degrees and her administrative certificate from Hood College.</p>
<p>She now lives with her husband, Ricky, on a 32-acre farm in Knoxville where she has -- you guessed it -- more animals.</p>
<p>&quot;We have horses, and we have a small cow-calf operation,&quot; she said. &quot;We have a bull, he makes babies, we sell the babies to pay our property taxes.&quot;</p>
<p>Ricky Getzandanner tolerates his wife's obsession with less-than-traditional pets with one exception.</p>
<p>&quot;He's not too happy if something gets loose,&quot; she said with a laugh. &quot;And occasionally a tarantula gets loose.&quot;<br />
<a href="http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2011/mar/06/critter-girl-takes-science-into-the-classroom/" target="_blank">www.kitsapsun.com/news/2011/mar/06/critter-girl-takes-science-into-the-classroom/</a></p></div>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by EricWI &mdash; 2011-03-08 02:49:28 GMT</p><p>PENDLETON — Scott and Sonda Herbert of AquaCare + Critter Hut have added a work-study program for area teens.</p>
<p>The Herberts recently bought the former Pendleton Music House building at 337 S.W. Emigrant Ave., and moved the business there. The store offers tropical fish, reptiles, small animals and pet supplies.</p>
<p>“This program is perfect for any teen who loves animals, would like to learn more about how to help others be successful pet owners, and are looking for hands-on training and experience,” Sonda said.</p>
<p>Enrollment is limited to provide each participant individual training. The Herberts anticipate two to three openings per quarter.</p>
<p>The first trainees, two Pendleton High School students, began Tuesday. Sonda said she and Scott might start a second work-study team before June 1, however.</p>
<p>The program includes written training and hands-on experience. Participants are expected to commit 16-20 hours to successfully complete each training module.</p>
<p>Trainees may choose to participate in one or all seven pet-specific training modules. The training includes lessons on small animals, freshwater fish, reptiles, cats, dogs, birds and nutrition.</p>
<p>The Herberts recommend that teens be 16 or older and willing to commit themselves to the program. Parental consent is required. Participants will be held to the same standards of attendance as any employee.</p>
<p>Those interested in the program should stop by the store for more information.<br />
<a href="http://www.eastoregonian.com/news/pet-store-inaugurates-work-study-program/article_349ec91e-47c1-11e0-baed-001cc4c03286.html" target="_blank">www.eastoregonian.com/news/pet-store-inaugurates-work-study-program/article_349ec91e-47c1-11e0-baed-001cc4c03286.html</a></p></div>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by EricWI &mdash; 2011-03-03 04:32:40 GMT</p><p><b>PETCO Offers Nationwide Reptile Educational Event on the Heels of &quot;Rango&quot; Movie Launch</p>
<p>National PETCO Meet the Critters Event Features Crested Gecko & Educates Families on Ownership via an Interactive Meet and Greet</b></p>
<p>SAN DIEGO, March 1, 2011 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- The buzz around Johnny Depp's latest animated feature, Rango, is already spreading like wildfire and parents everywhere will soon be faced with &quot;googly-eyed&quot; children wanting their own pet reptile after seeing the flick. Before making a decision, parents and kids alike are invited to educate themselves on the responsibilities of reptile ownership. PETCO's across the nation invite you to their &quot;Meet the Critters&quot; store-wide event featuring the Crested Gecko. In addition to giving reptile enthusiasts a chance to show off their pride and joy, the free educational event provides kids and their squeamish moms alike with an opportunity to hold the crested gecko, as well as learn interesting facts, proper care and habitat information.</p>
<p>Here are a just a few reasons why &quot;cresties&quot; have become one of the most popular pets in the gecko species and why PETCO is featuring them as part of the monthly &quot;Meet the Critters&quot; events:</p>
<p>⁃ Moms have no fear! While insects are enjoyed, they are not required- there is a Crested Gecko Diet specially formulated for them that is a powder that you simply mix with water.</p>
<p>⁃ This reptile has superb climbing abilities with a prehensile tail like a monkey so it can hang upside down.</p>
<p>⁃ With flirty eyelashes and velvety soft skin in array of colors, how can you not fall in love?</p>
<p>⁃ With a long life expectancy, you can prepare for this companion to become a real member of the family.</p>
<p>⁃ One look at the Crested Gecko's unique shape, velvety skin, patterns and colors makes it clear it's not your average reptile.</p>
<p>&quot;Meet the Critters: is a free educational event that allows guests of all ages to enjoy hands-on activities while learning about a variety of unique and interesting pets from reptiles to rabbits.</p>
<p>For more information on the event please contact a local PETCO or go to <a href="http://www.petco.com/critters" target="_blank">www.petco.com/critters</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.globenewswire.com/newsroom/news.html?d=215081" target="_blank">www.globenewswire.com/newsroom/news.html?d=215081</a></p></div>
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  <title>Reptile Presentation For Some Cub Scouts</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by FGS &mdash; 2011-02-02 08:33:43 GMT</p><p>There is something very special about watching these kids when it's time for them to touch and hold my cold blooded friends. Most of the kids that go to my reptile presentaions have never touched a reptile before.</p>
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<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by blueselaphe &mdash; 2011-02-19 06:45:05 GMT</p><p>I love it when they are calm enough to work with (the scouts, not the animals...<img class="img-fluid" src="https://forums.kingsnake.com/images/smiles/smile.gif" border="0" alt=""> Brian, if you think thats cool, take it to the next level and register as a Reptile and Amphibian Merit Badge counseler. You may have to give up a snake or lizard for a month but it is very rewarding when you can get an entire Troop to become reptile educated! But the &quot;reptile bug&quot; starts at the Cub level!!<br />
Whoo Hoo,<br />
Blue</p></div>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by bricun1 &mdash; 2010-10-10 23:28:07 GMT</p><p>Hello all, I am new to this forum, but I normally post on the cyclura and ctenosaura forum.  I am 3 months pregnant with my first child, and I have a crew of beloved reptiles that have been a part of our family for many years.  They are literally like family members to my husband and I.  I am very concerned as I have read that parents must remove their reptiles from the household before bringing baby home.  Is there any other option for us?  We have an extra bedrroom where the reptiles are caged, and I was hoping if they stay in that room, and we are diligent about hand washing, we could keep our scaly family intact.  I will even go as far as having the house professionally sanitized before I have our child.  Does anyone have any feedback or experience with this type of situation?<br />
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  <title>Fish &amp; Wildlife to add pythons to Lacey</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by PHFaust &mdash; 2010-01-21 16:55:28 GMT</p><p>In yet another attack on the reptile community, today Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar announced that the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service will look to list the &quot;Big 9&quot; from the USGS survey published in October on the Lacey Act as injurious species:</p>
<p>Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar today announced the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service will propose to list the Burmese python and eight other large constrictor snakes that threaten the Everglades and other sensitive ecosystems as &quot;injurious wildlife&quot; under the Lacey Act.</p>
<p>Salazar made the announcement at the Port of New York, which serves as the largest point of entry in the nation for imports of wildlife and wildlife products. Last year, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Inspectors at John F. Kennedy International Airport handled more than 27, 000 separate wildlife shipments valued at more than $1 billion, or 16 percent of all U.S. wildlife imports.</p>
<p>The proposal, which will be open to public comment before Salazar makes a final decision, would prohibit importation and interstate transportation of the animals.</p>
<p>&quot;The Burmese python and these other alien snakes are destroying some of our nations most treasured  and most fragile  ecosystems,&quot; Salazar said. &quot;The Interior Department and states such as Florida are taking swift and common sense action to control and eliminate the populations of these snakes, but it is an uphill battle in ecosystems where they have no natural predators. If we are going to succeed, we must shut down the importation of the snakes and end the interstate commerce and transportation of them.&quot;</p>
<p>This allows us yet another opportunity to refute the bad science involved with both HR2811 and S373. The FWS will publish the proposed rule change in the federal register in early February.</p>
<p>Once it's published, the public will have sixty days to offer comment, after which the waiting game begins again.</p>
<p>As soon as the comment period opens, we'll let you know what action to take, and where.</p>
<p>Even now, it's not too late -- or too early! -- to make calls, reach out to your senators and representatives. Let them know this proposal is based on bad science, that you're part of the reptile community and that you vote!<br />
<a href="http://www.pethobbyist.com/sitenews/index.php?/archives/470-Fish-Wildlife-to-add-pythons-to-Lacey-Act.html">Fish &amp; Wildlife to add pythons to Lacey act</a></p>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by mfoux &mdash; 2009-04-30 20:35:20 GMT</p><p>I've read two of the recent posts below regarding snake presentations in schools, churches, etc. I have some thoughts to add and also would like some advice from those who have experience doing these presentations.</p>
<p>This was my second year doing a snake and tortoise presentation at the school where my wife teaches. Last year I did two 30 minute presentations; this year I did four. They even interviewed me for their in-school news program. Kids and teachers kept coming up to me in the halls to comment and ask questions; it was really fun.</p>
<p>One of the teachers, who happens to be deathly afraid of snakes (but held one anyway for the news video) approached me and asked if I would like to put together a proposal for me to travel around the district doing presentations. They said my show got more response than the field trips to the animal rescues and the animals they've brought in before.</p>
<p>So far, my presentations have been to second grade classes, but we're talking about a genetics-focused show for high-school biology classes. It would feature live animals from my collection that are homozygous and/or heterozygous for one or more simple recessive genetic traits. I'll be able to show how two normal parents, for example, can produce albino offspring. Also how two or more simple recessive traits can combine to change an animals appearance.</p>
<p>Right now I'm in the brainstorming phase. I'm trying to come up with ideas for presentations that would appeal to a range of ages.</p>
<p>Some thoughts are (in no particular order):</p>
<p>General information about reptiles (part of my current presentation)<br />
Genetics<br />
Safety/identification<br />
Reptiles as pets<br />
Conservation<br />
Life Cycle and Food chain (part of my current presentation)<br />
Venom<br />
Snakes' Role in Ecology<br />
Types of Snakes<br />
Constrictors (Types and the mechanics of constriction, also mentioning the controversy surrounding large constrictors)</p>
<p>Some topics I'd like advice/feedback on:</p>
<p>Activities: Do any of you incorporate activities into your presentations to encourage participation? What types of activities?</p>
<p>Behavior: Second graders are a handful! Any tips or ideas to help keep them quiet and attentive?</p>
<p>Teaching Resources: Anyone know any good herp-related teaching resources geared toward different age levels that I could utilize?</p>
<p>What about insurance? How many of you carry insurance and where does one even start looking for that type of coverage? I generally only let the kids touch one or two of my snakes and my Sulcata, and I make sure they wash their hands with Germ-ex before AND after. I take the utmost care possible to avoid any accidents; the two snakes I allow kids to touch have NEVER bitten any human. But what if a kid comes down with salmonella or does manage to get bitten and the parents decide to sue me?</p>
<p>The animals I currently incorporate into my presentations are:</p>
<p>Honduran and Pueblan milk snakes<br />
California, Thayeri and Grey-banded king snakes<br />
Ball and Carpet pythons<br />
Sulcata</p>
<p>I enjoy doing these presentations and I feel like this is my part to play as a responsible reptile enthusiast; that education and the positive influence of public opinion regarding reptiles, especially snakes, is a noble cause. I'm interested in hearing your feedback.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
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1.1.0 Hondurans Anery, Het Hypo<br />
0.1.0 Honduran Hypo<br />
0.1.0 Honduran Hypo, Het Anery<br />
0.2.0 Pueblans<br />
1.0.0 Pueblan Hypo<br />
1.0.0 Thayeri MSP<br />
0.0.1 GBK Blair's Phase<br />
1.0.0 California King<br />
0.1.0 California King Blue-eyed Blond<br />
0.0.1 Speckled King WC<br />
0.0.1 Jungle Carpet<br />
0.1.0 Ball, Normal<br />
1.0.0 San Diego Gopher, Poss. Het Applegate<br />
0.0.1 Sulcata<br />
0.1.0 Wife, Caucasius Mexicana</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by varanid &mdash; 2009-10-04 17:57:01 GMT</p><p>I missed this post for along time apparently.<br />
I've done talks for boy scouts and cub scouts before, and currently volunteer as a docent at our city zoo.  So I've got some really neat experiences doing this. Most of the kids in the zoo that I talk to are in the younger crowd--they come up to my thighs! Tiny things.</p>
<p>For young kids, work humor into your presentation. Try to keep the time spent on each topic pretty short (5 minutes or so works well for me).  They don't have huge attention spans, or huge stores of knowledge to draw on. So keep it brief and basic. I like to cover (if I'm talking about a specific critter) where they are from, what they eat, how big they get and how long they live. I usually let them touch an animal, but I hold and control the animal. I keep the head near me, have them touch the back 1/3 of the critter--that way if anyone gets bit it's me.</p>
<p>Kind of an example spiel about ball pythons that I use at the zoo.</p>
<p>&quot;This is our ball python.  He's about 12 years old, and we've had him since he was a baby.   He can live up to 40 years! So if you think about getting one, remember you'll still have it when you're as old as your dad!. Ball pythons don't get much bigger than this (he's about 3.5', maybe 5 pounds). Does anyone know why they might call them a ball python? (listen to usually weird answers). They call them that because if they're scared, they ball up and hide their head. This one isn't doing it right now because he isn't scared; he's used to people.  They come from Africa, where they eat small rodents like gerbils and African rats.  Does anyone know how they find the rodents? (then point out heat pits and talk about the tongue).&quot;</p>
<p>I also like to have sheds and skulls available; I have a very big Argentine boa constrictor that I save the sheds from when I can. He's about 8' and the sheds are about 10-11' now, so it makes a great visual to demonstrate how big some snakes can get. I couldn't let Yoda wrap around a kid--for one thing he weighs as much as some of the younger ones--but that way they can see how the larger snakes compare to humans.  Once my retics get bigger I'll probably use their sheds too.   We also have replica skulls--they can be affordable, we get them from Bone Clone or Skulls Unlimited.  Some of the larger ones are pricey (the big gator skulls are several hundred bucks) but the snake and lizard skulls aren't bad. That way I can safely show them the teeth and how the jaws are built. It also lets you work in lame but usually appreciated jokes (&quot;See, this is the safe way to see a snakes teeth!&quot<img class="img-fluid" src="https://forums.kingsnake.com/images/smiles/wink.gif" border="0" alt="">.</p>
<p>At the zoo the only animals we have for touching right now are a Burmese we don't usually bring out (just cause it takes 2 people to control), the ball, a cal king and a rosy. We're raising up some more animals; geckos, a couple of kings, some other stuff.</p>
<p>On my personal presentations I keep the same rough formula--I bring my ball python, Yoda, and my albino retic and a tiger salamander. I just bought a speckled king and I'm going to buy some Trans Pecos rats to show people some local stuff as well.  I think bringing stuff they might see locally is neat, it's just I don't personally have much and I don't do presentations enough to really build a collection just for them.</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by PHFaust &mdash; 2009-05-07 06:03:34 GMT</p><p>I did forget to mention that the morning of the show everyone going gets a bath.  With johnsons baby soap and honest to goodness bath!<br />
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<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by PHFaust &mdash; 2009-05-07 06:01:48 GMT</p><p>&gt;&gt;I would check with the schools where you would be doing a presentation in regards to insurance.  You may be covered under their policy.  Just a suggestion.  Good luck.</p>
<p>Very good point.</p>
<p>I try to keep things light with the kids and pointing out something that makes most people giggle (picking their nose) helps keep the kids hands out of their mouth.  <img class="img-fluid" src="https://forums.kingsnake.com/images/smiles/smile.gif" border="0" alt=""><br />
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<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by eric561 &mdash; 2009-05-06 17:50:08 GMT</p><p>I would check with the schools where you would be doing a presentation in regards to insurance.  You may be covered under their policy.  Just a suggestion.  Good luck.</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by mfoux &mdash; 2009-05-06 13:22:24 GMT</p><p>...for the advice and kind words! I'm going over everything you said and working toward some new and improved presentations.<br />
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1.1.0 Hondurans Anery, Het Hypo<br />
0.1.0 Honduran Hypo<br />
0.1.0 Honduran Hypo, Het Anery<br />
0.2.0 Pueblans<br />
1.0.0 Pueblan Hypo<br />
1.0.0 Thayeri MSP<br />
0.0.1 GBK Blair's Phase<br />
1.0.0 California King<br />
0.1.0 California King Blue-eyed Blond<br />
0.0.1 Speckled King WC<br />
0.0.1 Jungle Carpet<br />
0.1.0 Ball, Normal<br />
1.0.0 San Diego Gopher, Poss. Het Applegate<br />
0.0.1 Sulcata<br />
0.1.0 Wife, Caucasius Mexicana</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by PHFaust &mdash; 2009-05-01 04:34:12 GMT</p><p>One thing I have done in the past is start off with an introduction and some quick rules.  <img class="img-fluid" src="https://forums.kingsnake.com/images/smiles/smile.gif" border="0" alt="">  This tends to get some attention to the kids.</p>
<p>&quot;Remember today that once you have touched reptiles we have a strict rule.  Don't stick your fingers in your eyes, ears, mouth and most important no nose picking.  If you are afraid of the animals here today feel free to sit in the back.  If you scream and I jump, I scare the animal and I might get bit.  If I the snake bites me, I get to bite you.  Everyone who wants a chance to pet or hold some of the animals will have a chance.&quot;  This has always gotten everyone's attention and I have never had a child mis-behave.  Another thing that has worked well in the past is having a few &quot;assistants&quot;.  2-3 who earned the privilege to help.  Usually it is a child in the class the teacher invited me from.  I tend to schedule an entire day where I incorporate all classes.  But I always have a child or three to help herd the others in, hold a ball python and show it around, corral my sulcatta.  It isnt a big need, but it does help and kids learned that once they got the chance to help, others want the chance and they tend to behave a LOT better.</p>
<p>Then I tend to go into the schpeil about the rescue (which is why I am there in the first place) Its very hard to work in a great amount of info.  I go into who lays eggs and who is live bearing.  Show differences between boa and python, talk about endangered species.  But I tend to spend no more than 5 mins per animal for smaller children.  With an average 30 mins per group, I get through probably 5 animals with questions allowed during each animal.</p>
<p>I also offer activity/coloring books with a little info about my rescue in the back for the kids to take home.  <img class="img-fluid" src="https://forums.kingsnake.com/images/smiles/smile.gif" border="0" alt="">  Shameless self promotion.<br />
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by dinahmoe &mdash; 2009-03-23 03:06:21 GMT</p><p>my 3 yo son really wants a pet he can call his own.we have ball pythons and an adult sulcata.he wants something he can keep in his room and hold it alot.he catches the toads and anoles in our yard(i thought of just keeping one of those)i thought about corns but he really likes frogs and lizards.he wants something to &quot;play&quot; with.nothing nocturnal.any advice on something that actually likes being handled(will  always be supervised.)</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by calebjg &mdash; 2010-05-01 15:29:32 GMT</p><p>My son got his first snake at three.It was a cornskane.He lost it 3 times but every time we found it.It also bit him once.<br />
I dont really recommend a kid that young a herp.But here is a pic of my son last year with  his corn, its five and he is 8.<br />
I will say my son loves that snake and it did make it.<br />
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<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by Hollychan &mdash; 2009-06-30 14:09:10 GMT</p><p>Get him a hamster.  Haha...</p>
<p>Actually, I was going to recommend an adult beardie or a leopard gecko.  Both are very mellow and pretty tolerant.  A beardie would just latch onto his shirt and stay there pretty well.  Both of them thrive in desert vivaria, which is pretty easy to maintain.  A three year old is a bit young for herps of his own... maybe make certain the lid stays latched/locked unless mommy or daddy are in the room?<br />
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1.0 Orange Marmalade Cat (Oliver)<br />
1.0 Black Cat (Shadowfax)<br />
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<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by dinahmoe &mdash; 2009-05-16 11:16:54 GMT</p><p>hi!thanks for your suggestion.i have read a little about them awhile back just cause i hadn't heard alot about them.they seemed pretty neat.i don't remember seeing alot of personal breeders on kingsnake just pet stores that were selling them.i will definitly look into them further,it may be perfect.thanks again.gb</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by viper8red &mdash; 2009-05-15 02:32:56 GMT</p><p>Hi there, I would suggest a snake that is utterly docile and very tolerant of any mishandling. I tend to think a juvinile rubber boa is an excellent first snake. Not terribly expensive, the thing will probably never bite/strike and easy to care for.</p>
<p>Your request for a herp that likes to be handled is really sort of a difficult request as it is caution to being handled or messed with that allows an animal to survive in the wild. So we keepers fool these wild animals into putting up with us by demonstrating to them over and over again that we can be trusted and that we mean them no harm.</p>
<p>Lizards and frogs aren't much for being held, nor are they big on sitting there and chilling out in your hand. A rubber boa will sit in your hand or coil around your finger or even your wrist. Keepers sometimes let them wrap around their wrist like its a bracelet. They don't have much in the way of constriction because of their little size so no danger to your 3yr old. As with all herps and children, constant supervision is a must.</p>
<p>They look just like this. Brownish/greyish in color. I chose this snake for your needs because the temperment is phenemenonal and the keeping requirements very minimal. No heat/humidity requirements. They can go 6 months w/o food so if you forget to feed them one week its of no concern. Thus I think it would be perfect for your son as it really could be held a lot and he could show it to others. One thing to note is that rubber boas are good at escaping terrariums by wiggling through small holes or not tight lids, so something secure is good.</p>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by aries_dolphin &mdash; 2009-02-20 11:34:11 GMT</p><p>Hi,<br />
I've had my pet snakes for about 4 years now. I have 6 red tail boas and 6 Kenyan sand boas. (variety of color morphs) I want to start doing presentations and eventually birthday parties with my snakes. <br />
My hesitation is that I'm not sure what I should talk about and I feel that my collection is too limited with only having 2 types of snakes to show. I've been a pre-school teacher for almost 10 years and I work with kids all the time. I have casually brought a snake to work with me to informally show it off and the kids responded great. I just feel hesitant when it comes to the expectations of a formal presentation.</p>
<p>Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Kristina <br />
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1.2 anery Kenyan<br />
1.0 albino Kenyan<br />
0.1 albino paradox Kenyan<br />
0.1 snow Kenyan<br />
0.2 normal red tail<br />
1.1 salmon red tail<br />
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<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by PHFaust &mdash; 2009-03-09 14:16:23 GMT</p><p>Howdy!</p>
<p>When I do school presenations I take around 10 or so different animals!  I take some for kids to look at only, some for handling.  I usually have at least 1 larger burm, 1 tortoise (usually my large sulcatta), 1 iguana, a few balls.  Depending on what is sitting here in the rescue, we take a beardie, corn, boa, etc.</p>
<p>When I talk about the snakes, I offer some basic information depending on what group it is.  Natural habitat range, ease of keeping as pets, what is needed as pets.  Stuff like that.  I also usually talk about the importance of selecting carefully so you dont become a statistic and have your unwanted pet end up in my rescue.<br />
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<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by CrazyForHerps &mdash; 2009-03-09 05:12:19 GMT</p><p>There will be many kids that see your snakes and say &quot;I want one&quot;. Thus, I think some of the most important aspects of reptile education are how very important it is to do research before purchasing a snake, some basic care tips, and which types of snakes are &quot;beginner&quot; snakes, such as corns. You could also ask around and try to find some other snake-owners that could lend you their snakes.<br />
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by BCRHerps &mdash; 2009-02-05 18:49:59 GMT</p><p>I was thinking about maybe starting a thing where I visit schools(or wherever) with my herps and teach people about reptiles but I have no idea how to start anybody got any advice?</p>
<p>Oh yeah and do you think that this may be a downfall while doing that? I'm 12 but I am homeschooled so I have time to do that but I fear nobody will pay attention to me since I'm so young(although I most likely will have an adult with me)<br />
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0.0.1 Ball Python<br />
0.2.0 Dogs<br />
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<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by viper9 &mdash; 2009-03-13 13:11:34 GMT</p><p>I'm 18 although when I started doing presentations I was about your age. I started with connecting with biology and zoology teachers at the local schools, which you can still do even if you don't attend the schools. I also do talks with the herp society I am in. That will give you a great deal of experience and hands on teaching with someone their to back you up if you get stuck. So if you can get involved with a local herp society that can also be great for getting started.</p>
<p>Mike</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by snakeadventures &mdash; 2009-03-11 23:54:49 GMT</p><p>Recently, my son gave an oral report on kingsnakes in his 3rd grade class. I provided a visual aid, which was my Mexican black kingsnake.  The reaction from the kids (girls included) was surprising.  They all had to touch the snake and everyone was excited and had snake stories.  <br />
I think that most kids are interested in learning about herps and that if you provided just basic interesting info about herps, people will listen to you.  Just explaining why a snake flicks its tongue out is interesting to kids.  There are people around here that charge to give reptile presentations. You could make money while you teach kids to love herps.<br />
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<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by rugbyman2000 &mdash; 2009-02-14 14:00:14 GMT</p><p>Great post. You're a young man after my own heart. I was also homeschooled for several years (and I have several younger friends who are still homeschooled, even though I'm 27 now). Many of my younger friends do what I did, which is starting with any reptile presentations they can. This includes doing demonstrations for churches, home-school co-op groups, youth groups, scouts, or any clubs they can find. It is great to start doing talks in a few different settings to develop your presentation and have a few talks on your &quot;resume&quot; when you approach schools. It may be hard to approach schools with an informal program without knowing anyone. But if you have a friend who is a teacher, that would be a great place to start. Many teachers are glad to have a visitor fill 30 or 60 minutes of their day with an interesting topic.</p>
<p>I have gone from doing free talks to building a more formal rescue and education group over the years, and now my full time job is visiting schools and other groups for herp education. We actually do hundreds of outreach programs each year and it's a great career! You can feel free to borrow some of our lesson ideas at www.forgottenfriend.org/afterschool. For our aftereschool programs we actually keep the herp lessons low key and incorporate more games and activities, and reptile story books which encourage literacy, which is always a plus at schools. For our regular programs (www.forgottenfriend.org/learn) we include about 15 reptiles from many habitats and and continents.</p>
<p>A great beginner lesson can include asking students to name the four families of reptiles. I usually start with easy questions and ask them to say YES or NO if an animal is a reptile. Give them a couple easy ones like horse, chicken, cow, then throw in FROG and see what happens. Then you can separate amphibians and reptiles and get them to name of snakes, lizards, turtles, and crocs. It is just one of the most basic starting points and it helps students and teachers give a more firm understanding of the basics.</p>
<p>The longer I do programs the less I do &quot;hands-on&quot; time with the reptiles. As much as I would love to let everyone hold every reptile, liability just does not allow it. So you may want to allow everyone to see all of your animals, but only hold one or two species, like corn snakes, or others with no claws. Even leopard geckos, which seem harmless, may not be the best to let young children handle since they are easy to drop or squeeze too hard. An alternative is to let kids pass around small reptiles while they are still in their containers.</p>
<p>Well I think I've gone on long enough. Please let me know if you have any other questions. Herp awareness is better than ever, but we will always be fighting a losing P.R. battle with reptiles, so we need as many educators out there as possible! Keep up the good work.</p>
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<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by eric561 &mdash; 2009-02-13 20:49:02 GMT</p><p>I was into herps at a young age as well.  I did informal talks with live herps to different groups of kids including summer camps, church groups and schools.  All of the talks were done at the request of friends, acquaintances or family.</p>
<p>Mostly I would try to gear the talks towards herp conservation.  For example: herps eat pests like rodents and insects and without the herps there would be an imbalance with an abundance of pests.  If you have a crowd partication time and question/answer session you can easily have yourself a 30 minute presentation.</p>
<p>Good luck and happy herping!</p></div>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by RainbowsRule &mdash; 2008-12-02 00:00:06 GMT</p><p>i wanted to know you guys' opinion on brazilian rainbow boas for beginners/kids. I heard that they are not that great. I personally lov them, just wanted your opinion<img class="img-fluid" src="https://forums.kingsnake.com/images/smiles/smile.gif" border="0" alt=""><br />
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0.0.1 Ghost Corn snake (Starbuck)</p>
<p>0.0.1 Variable Kingsnake (Lego)- I miss you<br />
1.1.0 Leopard Geckos (Mr Stubs, Bandit)- I miss you</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by CrazyForHerps &mdash; 2009-03-09 05:08:30 GMT</p><p>I haven't owned one (I plan to this fall), but I have read a lot about them. So I guess my opinion doesn't count.</p>
<p>Mostly, I think BRBs aren't considered for kids because they can become a bit larger than a ball python or a corn snake. Also, they are more expensive. I have also heard of a few really nasty ones, though it isn't very common.<br />
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<p>0.1 Lavender California Kingsnake (Lizzie Borden) (missing <img class="img-fluid" src="https://forums.kingsnake.com/images/smiles/sad.gif" border="0" alt=""> )<br />
1.0 Florida Kingsnake possible mix (Eddie Gein)<br />
1.0 Bearded Dragon (Charley Manson)<br />
1.0 Orange Marmalade Cat (Oliver)<br />
1.0 Egyptian Arabian (Bagan)</p>
<p>2.0 Toddlers (Justice & Trevor)</p></div>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by  &mdash; 2007-08-16 13:20:01 GMT</p><p>FREE PRESS (Detroit, Michigan) 12 August 07  At Home: Find a painted turtle (Patricia Chargot)<br />
It's never a good idea to remove an animal from its natural habitat and make it a pet.<br />
For starters, it might not be able to adapt and could get sick and even die.<br />
That said, there's no better way to learn about an animal than by observing it closely in captivity.  So some science educators say it's OK to catch some species, as long as you keep them briefly.<br />
&quot;I think every kid ought to keep a painted turtle and garter snake for a couple of weeks in summer,&quot; said Jim Harding, a herpetology -- amphibian and reptile -- instructor and researcher at Michigan State University.<br />
Painted turtles and garter snakes are common throughout the Great Lakes region and probably live in your area. Both animals are easy and safe to catch. Just make sure that you catch the right species!<br />
(There are 18 other Michigan snakes listed on the state Department of Natural Resources Web site at www.michigan.gov/dnr. Also, four of the state's 10 turtle species -- wood, spotted, Eastern box and Blanding's turtles -- are completely protected; it's illegal to remove them, even briefly.)<br />
Take along an adult and a good field guide, such as &quot;Amphibians and Reptiles of the Great Lakes Region&quot; by James H. Harding. (That's Jim!)<br />
&quot;Feed a painted turtle bits of dark lettuce, aquatic vegetation or commercial turtle food,&quot; Jim said. &quot;Feed a garter snake earthworms -- that's the easiest thing.&quot;<br />
Learn as much as you can about your painted turtle or snake. Record your observations in a journal, and draw the animal or take its picture.<br />
After a few days or a week -- two weeks at most -- return the animal to its natural habitat. Release it exactly where you found it.<br />
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by  &mdash; 2007-08-16 12:45:56 GMT</p><p>KINGSTON THIS WEEK (Ontario) 08 August 07 Lesson pays off for teacher, students and turtles (Michael Sykes is the CRCA's marketing and communications assistant) <br />
Efforts by concerned students to educate motorists to avoid turtles crossing roads is turning into a civic lesson, says Cataraqui Region Conservation Authority Education Officer Stana Luxford. <br />
&quot;As a group, one of my classes took on getting (turtle crossing) signs erected,&quot; says Ms. Luxford. &quot;If anything, it has taught the kids to be patient, but persistent, and that change takes time.&quot; <br />
The project started during an alternative conservation education class in October 2006. Most class members have studied with Ms. Luxford for years so there is an easy, yet respectful, familiarity that binds this mentor and those she guides. <br />
&quot;Over the years, we have addressed the turtle road kill issue and the students were disturbed by it; they were very upset,&quot; recalls Ms. Luxford. <br />
So they turned to their teacher and Ms. Luxford wondered aloud about turtle crossing signs. <br />
&quot;We focused on how to identify the turtle species, and from there it went to 'what can we do to help them',&quot; she recalls. &quot;So as a group we took on the project of getting signs erected.&quot; <br />
Attempts to influence municipal governments turned into a civics exercise. <br />
&quot;We found that it's a lot more difficult to get the city to put up a sign and we learned, that they don't want signs all over the place,&quot; says Ms. Luxford. <br />
They discovered that Kingston already has four turtle crossing signs. Adding more was a numbers game. City officials cited three considerations to justify more signage: public input, staff field observations and a hard number of turtle sightings. <br />
&quot;You have to document turtle signings and it can't be by just one person,&quot; elaborates Ms. Luxford, &quot;it has to be a lot of people.&quot; <br />
The challenge, according to some biologists, is that permanent signs become, with time, invisible to motorists. Seasonal signs are thought to be marginally more effective. These stay in place only during times that turtles cross roads in search of places to lay eggs. <br />
And that's what happened. A seasonal sign has been added to a section of Perth Road crossed by turtles - one year after Ms. Luxford's students accepted the challenge. <br />
&quot;If anything, this has taught the kids to be really patient,&quot; says Ms. Luxford. &quot;And I'm pleased that the students get to see the fruits of their labour.&quot; <br />
Two of her students, Erin Scott and Sage Irwin, both 12, took independent action. <br />
They created posters and strategically placed them in downtown Kingston to educate the public about turtles. <br />
They were inspired by both Ms. Luxford and Matt Ellerbeck, a well-known Kingston-area reptile advocate known for his public talks. He added his voice to those pressing for a turtle crossing sign. <br />
&quot;After his talk, they were inspired so they put up posters and signs in stores about the plight of turtles,&quot; says Ms. Luxford. <br />
These leadership examples by teachers underline the importance of setting positive examples of environmentalism for young people. <br />
&quot;It teaches them how to take an issue they're concerned about and push for change,&quot; says Ms. Luxford. &quot;I think it teaches them the connection that we are all a part of this planet.&quot; <br />
A lifelong outdoor education teacher, Ms. Luxford pays special attention to practicing what she preaches. <br />
&quot;If we (her classes) see something like a caterpillar, we'll make sure we remove it from the trail,&quot; she says. &quot;These may be small acts but I think they set a big example of being mindful of all life.&quot; <br />
It's a logical extension of helping turtles cross dangerous roadways. <br />
&quot;Turtles are a really important species in our wetlands, both as a scavenger but also as a predator,&quot; she says. <br />
Ms. Luxford encourages families to select an area of environmental interest to turn into family projects. <br />
&quot;Choose something that as a family everyone can work on, then be persistent and patient,&quot; she urges. <br />
Stana Luxford graduated with degrees from both the University of Waterloo and Queen's University. <br />
She says her goal is to instill awe and respect for the natural environment today through the head, heart and hands, contributing to a strong conservation ethic tomorrow.</p>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by  &mdash; 2007-07-31 13:16:18 GMT</p><p>EDMONTON SUN (Alberta) 28 July 07  Reptile show a teaching tool (Carter Haydu)<br />
Sherwood Park's Kaitlyn Pullishy, 3, could hardly contain her excitement while gazing at Little Ray's Reptile Zoo exhibit in the Family Fun town at Capital Ex on Friday. <br />
&quot;There's a big crocodile! They're sleeping! They are too big!&quot; <br />
Kaitlyn, curious how the zookeepers got the animals in and out of their cages, had no idea people actually handled the large reptiles. <br />
&quot;They let them out?&quot; <br />
Ray Goulet, curator of the travelling zoo, said even though all his reptiles are docile and used to people, whenever he takes the alligators and crocodiles out for demonstrations with the public, he makes sure their mouths are safely taped shut. <br />
However, he said the bigger concern is ensuring the reptiles' safety while the zoo travels from carnival to carnival. Cold-blooded animals are unable to regulate their own body heat. So if they're left too long in a hot vehicle, they'll die. <br />
&quot;They can't warm themselves up, but they also can't cool themselves down,&quot; Goulet said, adding zookeepers must also ensure the animals' comfort while travelling. <br />
All 15 show animals, including crocodilians, snakes, turtles and lizards, are transported in plywood boxes, each fitted to match the individual animal's size precisely. Goulet said reptiles actually prefer enclosures. <br />
&quot;They feel more secure in tight spaces.&quot; <br />
The boxes are loaded in the back of Goulet's van, which is kept at a comfortable temperature, and the zoo drives to the next destination nonstop. <br />
To ensure the crocodiles and alligators don't hurt themselves during the trip, foam cushions are placed in their mouths, as well as around their snouts. <br />
&quot;If they forget they're in a box (and jerk their heads), they don't hurt their faces.&quot; <br />
However, he said most reptiles just fall asleep in the boxes. <br />
Little Ray's Reptile Zoo interactively teaches children about exotic creatures while spreading awareness of endangered reptiles native to Canada. <br />
&quot;The biggest part of the message is to promote backyard conservation.&quot; <br />
Goulet will be taking an extra lizard with him after Capital Ex. He picked up a female iguana with a bad mouth infection which had been left at the local humane society . <br />
He said the animal would be part of the travelling show until it returns to the central zoo in Ottawa, where the iguana will have a new home.<br />
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