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  <title>About HGH Injections</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by Patricson &mdash; 2018-11-29 10:25:51 GMT</p><p>They say life begins at 40. They also say 50 is the new 40, 60 is the new 50, and so on. Yet, if that’s true, why do so many people gain weight, feel less energetic and are more susceptible to illness as they age? If you’re one of them, it’s time you learned about HGH injections, the proven scientific key to rejuvenation of all the cells in your body and the key to restoring the good health and great vitality you had as a young man or woman. HGH is short for Human Growth Hormone, a hormone like testosterone that your body naturally produces. It provides all the qualities you associate with youth – vitality, stamina, great skin, a full head of hair and more. You’ve got plenty of HGH when you’re young, but as you age, your levels of HGH Human Growth Hormone and Testosterone secretion diminish. That’s what makes you look older, have less get up and go, gain weight and start developing health issues. The solution to low HGH or low Testosterone levels can be found in a number of HGH injections including Omnitrope, Norditropin, Genotropin and Saizen or Testosterone injections such as Cypionate, Enanthate, Suspension, Propionate and Depo Testosterone. Our local clinics are the perfect place to get even more HGH Injection Therapy Information. The great thing about this remarkable form of therapy is that they are safe and easy to self-administer – and the results are phenomenal. Without weeks, you’ll see and feel a significant difference. As your HGH Hormone levels rise, not only will you have a lot more energy and stamina, but you’ll also find it easier to control your weight, have sharper memory and focus, look younger and generally feel healthier. You’ll be more agile, sleep better at night, and even experience an increase in sexual desire and performance. To learn more about HGH injections and how they can help you regain your mojo, keep reading.<br />
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  <title>Blood x Burm breeding....</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by minicopilot &mdash; 2015-10-08 13:59:30 GMT</p><p>Has anyone done a Blood x Burm breeding and if so, what came of it? I'd love to see pictures.</p></div>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by ezeedad &mdash; 2014-10-10 17:18:04 GMT</p><p>I have always had such problems posting photos I have just given up.  Today is another one of these days.  I have resized my photos. then Got error messages after the first post just fine...after that  too many problems to mention.  My last try ..for today..I guess.<br />
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  <title>King/Corn pair</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by ezeedad &mdash; 2014-10-10 15:45:35 GMT</p><p>I wasn't breeding for 5 years or so.  Thought I should share some pics.<br />
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  <title>Hybrid tortoises</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by emysbreeder &mdash; 2014-06-21 04:53:03 GMT</p><p>Pictures out of Asia of Hybrid tortoises. Anyone know about this. Seen them? Radiated X Plowshare. Vic</p></div>
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  <title>Thayeri x Nelson&apos;s Vomit. What to do?</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by Fraymorg &mdash; 2014-03-30 16:47:49 GMT</p><p>I recently acquired a Thayeri x Nelson's. After almost 3 days in my house it vomited a pinkie that the seller fed him. It was at least partially, if not almost completely, digested. I could only make out the tail and a blob which I think was the lower half. I think I know what might've caused this.The temperature is steady at 85-86 in the day and about 72-73 at night. I havent tried to handle him since he got here and I was planning on feeding him on Wednesday. Obviously this was before he vomited. The reason why i think he vomited was because his temp was dropped suddenly from Day to Night at about 9pm. Maybe the sudden drop? Also, He is in the living room but I dont approach the tank much though we do spend time in there. Should I move him to the guest room and slowly acclimate him to human presence? Was it the temperture drop? A combination of both? Any help would be appreciated as this is my second snake. Also he was hatched on the last week of September so he is just a hatchling. Maybe Im stressing over nothing but i just dont want this little guy to die.</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by Bluerosy &mdash; 2014-05-05 03:27:53 GMT</p><p><b>I recently acquired a Thayeri x Nelson's. After almost 3 days in my house it vomited a pinkie</b></p>
<p>after 3 days that pinkie should have been digested.</p>
<p>Up your hotspot and feed it again in a week.. this will allow time for the stomach to settle from the recent regurge.</p>
<p>\Normally I would tell you to administer flagyl. But the undigested pink tells me you had the nake too cool.</p>
<p>Makes ure you DO NOT raise temsps in the entire enloser.. What is best is to offer the snake a large variance from cold to hot.. the colder the room is the better.. so when you have it 72 on one end and lets say 90f on the other e nd. this gives your snake the choices in temps to digest it bolus with varying degrees and different stages.</p>
<p>A forced one set temp is not optimal.. and especially now that your snake regurged you need to manage the husbandry a little better. If you feed too soon or you don't offer a high to low temp gradient , then it could regurge again and if it does then you will have a p roblem...second regurges are not good.</p>
<p>also don't forget these dry out and get dehydrated very easily even though they may have a water bowl at their disposal.. snakes don't drink much in the wild.. they maintain their water by being able to choose more humdid places underground.. so provide a small humid box as well.<br />
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&quot;Doing the same things over and over expecting to learn something else, is the definition of insanity&quot;</p></div>
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  <title>Best of 2013 Colubrid Hybridz </title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by MESOZOIC &mdash; 2014-02-08 16:55:51 GMT</p><p>Cornsnake X Nelson's Milk<br />
<img class="img-fluid" src="https://scontent-b-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/1378104_10151899197218604_1862945318_n.jpg"></p>
<p>Imperial Pueblan X Hypo Honduran<br />
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<p>Imperial Pueblan X Hypo Honduran<br />
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<p>Cornsnake X Nelson's Milksnake<br />
<img class="img-fluid" src="https://scontent-a-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/1382361_10151912288998604_42763442_n.jpg"></p>
<p>Bloodred Jungle Cornsnake<br />
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<p>Imperial Pueblan<br />
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<p>Thayeri X Nelson's<br />
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<p>Cornsnake x Nelson's<br />
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<p>Ultramel Jungle Corn<br />
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<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by mesozoic &mdash; 2014-06-04 17:09:45 GMT</p><p>&gt;&gt;nice work!<br />
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&gt;&gt;&quot;I guess newbies cannot understand, those who build the foundation, are not the ones with great opportunity. Those who buy the latest generations, have the greatest opportunity to create new morphs. &quot;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;Frank Retes<br />
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<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by Bluerosy &mdash; 2014-03-13 04:36:28 GMT</p><p>nice work!<br />
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&quot;I guess newbies cannot understand, those who build the foundation, are not the ones with great opportunity. Those who buy the latest generations, have the greatest opportunity to create new morphs. &quot;</p>
<p>Frank Retes</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by Amanda_D &mdash; 2014-02-08 17:14:22 GMT</p><p>np<br />
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1.0 normal BP Nicodemus<br />
1.0 BP Moufasa pos vanilla, fire, cinny<br />
0.4 Cal Kings 3 alb 1 het Dora Queen Ace Pearl<br />
2.0 Alb Corn Bizaar Elixir<br />
0.0.1 Rev Alb Nelsons Oden</p></div>
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  <title>Henrys House of Snakes? </title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by TJ. &mdash; 2014-02-06 16:15:47 GMT</p><p>Is Henry still on here? I just looked for his web-site and now I can't find it anywhere. (It's been a while) He had the best hybrids ever!</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by Bluerosy &mdash; 2014-03-26 05:41:37 GMT</p><p>His website has been down for a long time<br />
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Another oddity, snakes have scent glands, hmmmmmmmmmm what are they for?<br />
FR</p></div>
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  <title>Why so dead?</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by kenthesnakeguy &mdash; 2014-02-01 07:37:12 GMT</p><p>Hey all just wondering why this forum is DEAD!? Nothing since September? Clayton get busy son!! I'll try and get some cool pics up this weekend!!</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by MESOZOIC &mdash; 2014-02-08 16:41:36 GMT</p><p>&gt;&gt;Hey all just wondering why this forum is DEAD!? Nothing since September? Clayton get busy son!! I'll try and get some cool pics up this weekend!!</p>
<p>I think everyone just post on facebook now. Atleast it seems like it. I'm in the process of redoing my site. I'm gonna have a lot of new pics on there. <img class="img-fluid" src="https://forums.kingsnake.com/images/smiles/smile.gif" border="0" alt=""><br />
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<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by Amanda_D &mdash; 2014-02-01 18:02:10 GMT</p><p>np<br />
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1.0 normal BP Nicodemus<br />
1.0 BP Moufasa pos vanilla, fire, cinny<br />
0.4 Cal Kings 3 alb 1 het Dora Queen Ace Pearl<br />
2.0 Alb Corn Bizaar Elixir<br />
0.0.1 Rev Alb Nelsons Oden</p></div>
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  <title>Panther/Fat Tail hybrid , is it possible</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by Fleck &mdash; 2013-09-20 20:10:57 GMT</p><p>Has anyone ever heard of a (Paroedura pictus)panther gecko x Fat Tail gecko hybrid?</p>
<p>Thank you</p></div>
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  <title>2013 Ultramel Jungle Corn</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by Mesozoic &mdash; 2013-08-17 18:19:23 GMT</p><p><img class="img-fluid" src="https://forums.kingsnake.com/images/smiles/wink.gif" border="0" alt=""><br />
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<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by MESOZOIC &mdash; 2013-08-24 15:51:31 GMT</p><p>&gt;&gt;wow, really nice.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;congrats<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;,,,,,,,,,,thomas<br />
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&gt;&gt;Morphs... just like baseball cards BUT ALIVE, how cool is that???<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;my website www.barmollysplace.com</p>
<p>THANKS!<br />
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<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by thomas davis &mdash; 2013-08-19 14:34:59 GMT</p><p>wow, really nice.</p>
<p>congrats</p>
<p>,,,,,,,,,,thomas<br />
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Morphs... just like baseball cards BUT ALIVE, how cool is that???</p>
<p>my website www.barmollysplace.com</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by MESOZOIC &mdash; 2013-08-17 19:00:02 GMT</p><p><img class="img-fluid" src="https://sphotos-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/644300_10151770751093604_1352416092_n.jpg"></p>
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  <title>What Will I Get</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by keeper08 &mdash; 2013-08-05 21:30:48 GMT</p><p>I've gotten an Albino California King female and a Thayers King male. He is a Buckskin Split Saddle. I know how you can get almost anything when breeding a Thayers, but what is you guess for putting these two together.</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by tbrophy &mdash; 2013-08-21 20:55:58 GMT</p><p>It is really up to you whether you feel guilty or not about hybridizing snakes or pretty much anything, right?</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by ChrisErica &mdash; 2013-08-21 20:01:38 GMT</p><p>I'm just tired of the same few that pile on like a pack of hungry wolves when it comes to hybrids.  Like I said before, the only responsibility a person breeding hybrids has is to inform the person buying the snake it's an intergrade or hybrid.  That's it folks.  Other than that, a person should be able to breed whatever they like, with whoever they like, whenever they like and not feel guilty about it.   End of story...</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by TBrophy &mdash; 2013-08-21 19:44:30 GMT</p><p>I could see situations where the offspring of a hybridized animal got sold and eventually bred to a &quot;pure&quot; snake, thus producing hybrids.  Some of the hybrids appear very obviously hybridized (to me), but some look similar to &quot;pure&quot; species, especially second or third generation removed.  It has happened that the breeder may not even know he was hybridizing; it could be accidental.  I hold no animosity to the hybridizers, but I would never do it myself.</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by Fraymorg &mdash; 2013-08-21 15:18:41 GMT</p><p>That is understandable. I just think that there are niches in the hobby that both can take advantage of. I can only speak for myself but, when I bought my first snake I was looking for one that was easy to take care of AND had a pattern that I liked. Didnt care if it was a Hybrid or not. Im not saying most new buyers think the way I do but it wouldnt be a stretch either to say they do. Why dont we just focus on that (the niches, I mean)? True there are breeders that are dishonest but that doesnt only limit them to being Hybrid breeders. The hobby should be kept alive, true. Its just some people depend on this hobby to put food on the table so they will adapt. I'm not defending dishonesty anywhere btw.</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by tbrophy &mdash; 2013-08-21 10:22:02 GMT</p><p>No offense taken.  The main concern is that these hybrids and their offspring will muddy up the captive gene pool.  I actually agree with the purists that hybridization is not desirable, but I do not wish to control what other folks do with their snakes.</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by Fraymorg &mdash; 2013-08-21 02:31:16 GMT</p><p>Agreed yet, still, why all the hate for hybrids? Again, people will like  what they'll like. No need to be hating on what some people prefer because it doesn't match your preferences. BTW, not an attack on your person just on the intolerable ones out there.</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by tbrophy &mdash; 2013-08-21 00:30:47 GMT</p><p>This thread started in the &quot;kingsnake forum&quot; and was moved to the hybrid forum.  As I recall the most scathing attacks on hybrids occurred while the thread was still in the kingsnake forum.</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by Fraymorg &mdash; 2013-08-20 21:31:52 GMT</p><p>Exactly what I thought when I read this thread in it's entirety. If you don't like hybrids then fine but dont act like it is the bane of snakes existence. Respect other opinions that differ from yours and dont make assumptions on the community based on one of the individuals. Some people here not only treat hybrids like trash but also certain patterns. I myself dont own a hybrid, though the Imperial Pueblans I've seen are just breathtakingly beautiful and is a snake I would like to add to my collection, but my Aberrant Cal King was described in a tone of disgust when I asked about what its pattern was. People like what they like. Learn to accept it guys.</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by ChrisErica &mdash; 2013-08-20 20:32:57 GMT</p><p>This is the 'hybrid' forum correct?  Which means that people should be free to discuss hybrid crosses without being attacked.</p>
<p>Why don't you get some balls and call out the so called purists for attacking or pontificating to the hybrid breeders?   If a person wants to cross breed that is their personal choice.  To each his own.   Who the hell are these people to tell us that breeding hybrids is wrong in the hybrids forum no less?</p>
<p>I'm sure after reading this post my account will be deleted, not a problem though as I have several already.</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by CommunityReview &mdash; 2013-08-12 16:19:22 GMT</p><p>You can be as passionate as you want about the TOPIC you're discussing. You can disagree. You can even disagree heatedly.</p>
<p>But all posts that are aimed at individuals rather than the issue, that insult or call names, WILL be removed, and people who continue to engage in personal attacks instead of actual discussion and debate will lose access to their account.</p>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by ihaveherps &mdash; 2013-07-11 13:28:36 GMT</p><p>Ok, a couple questions about Cali king snake/ milk snake hybrids.<br />
First, can any California king be crossed with any milk?<br />
and would any king/milk combination produce some variation of Imperial or does it have to be banana x pueblan?</p>
<p>Also, do they need to be switched out like some of the other hybrids? Or can they just be put together?</p>
<p>thanks!</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by Mesozoic &mdash; 2013-07-12 01:22:03 GMT</p><p>&gt;&gt;Ok, a couple questions about Cali king snake/ milk snake hybrids.<br />
&gt;&gt;First, can any California king be crossed with any milk?<br />
&gt;&gt;and would any king/milk combination produce some variation of Imperial or does it have to be banana x pueblan?<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;Also, do they need to be switched out like some of the other hybrids? Or can they just be put together?<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;thanks!</p>
<p>I would imagine most milks when bred to a cal king will produce viable young.<br />
The Imperial pueblan is 75% Pueblan and 25% Cal King so no, not any milk and cal king would be an Imperial. People have crossed Sinaloan Milks with Cal King and call them Sincals. Your best bet for making a successful hybrid breeding is to have a pair of each of the snakes you want to cross that way the male can smell the female of the same species and then be switched over to the back of the non same species and hopefully lock up.<br />
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by Austin12 &mdash; 2013-06-12 02:38:22 GMT</p><p>Can someone point me to any sites that contain information on snake Hybrid Breeding? Basic info on cross breeding species, for example Hognose types. Something to explain the basics in laymen's terms.</p>
<p>It doesn't have to be Hognose, just something to explain what it takes for a given snake to be able to breed outside the normal realm. (Game of Thrones term <img class="img-fluid" src="https://forums.kingsnake.com/images/smiles/wink.gif" border="0" alt=""></p>
<p>Thanks!</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by Austin12 &mdash; 2013-06-13 00:27:54 GMT</p><p>This is great! Thanks you so much!</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by ChrisErica &mdash; 2013-06-12 22:16:12 GMT</p><p>http://vmsherp.com/LCHybridization.htm</p></div>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by Mesozoic &mdash; 2013-02-24 17:30:00 GMT</p><p>Opal Jungle Cornsnake <img src="https://forums.kingsnake.com/admin/images/smiles/tongue.gif" alt=":P" class="smiley"><br />
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Albino Banded Imperial Pueblan<br />
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Albino Imperial Pueblan<br />
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Albino Imperial Pueblan<br />
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Hypomelanistic Jungle Cornsnake <br />
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Imperial Pueblan<br />
<img class="img-fluid" src="http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/540826_535500396484277_604095033_n.jpg"><br />
Highwhite California Kingsnake<br />
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Albino Titan Kingsnake<br />
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Albino Imperial Pueblan<br />
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Patternless Water Dragon <img class="img-fluid" src="https://forums.kingsnake.com/images/smiles/wink.gif" border="0" alt=""><br />
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<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by Mesozoic &mdash; 2013-06-19 23:36:01 GMT</p><p>&gt;&gt;Just gorgeous man!<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;i don't see how anyone dissing hybrids can look at those and not die to have one. Why just can't they admit the obvious....that is, if they don't like that, then they are not true herpetoculturists.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;Those are true gems. Keep up the great work!<br />
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&gt;&gt;&quot;the fact of the matter is if folks want &quot;pure&quot; types they should go snake hunting. or at least do some research on potential breeding stock and not just pick anything up anywhere show/petshop&quot;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;Thomas Davis</p>
<p>Thanks Rainer!<br />
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<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by BeattyReptiles &mdash; 2013-06-07 01:25:17 GMT</p><p>Well said Rainer.  Hybrids are the future of this industry/hobby.</p>
<p>Cornduran pictured. 50% corn 50% honduran milk<br />
<img class="img-fluid" src="http://gallery.kingsnake.com/data/124416male_cornduran_998-med.jpg"></p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by ChrisErica &mdash; 2013-05-16 21:44:50 GMT</p><p>I totally agree.  Hybrids are beautiful and are here to stay.</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by Bluerosy &mdash; 2013-04-24 23:42:02 GMT</p><p>Just gorgeous man!</p>
<p>i don't see how anyone dissing hybrids can look at those and not die to have one. Why just can't they admit the obvious....that is, if they don't like that, then they are not true herpetoculturists.</p>
<p>Those are true gems. Keep up the great work!<br />
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<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by Mesozoic &mdash; 2013-03-10 16:23:25 GMT</p><p>&gt;&gt;The Imperial Pueblan has got to be one of the nicest hybrids ever created. Who was the first person to make them?<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;What constitutes a Titan King?<br />
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<p>Jim Meyer was the first to make Imperials. I agree they are awesome.<br />
Titans are <br />
25% California Kingsnake (Lampropeltis getula californiae)<br />
25% Apalachicola Kingsnake (Lampropeltis getula goini)<br />
25% Cornsnake (Pantherophis Guttata Guttata) <br />
25% Texas Rat Snake (Elaphe obsoleta lindheimeri) <br />
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<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by Aaron &mdash; 2013-03-08 16:23:56 GMT</p><p>The Imperial Pueblan has got to be one of the nicest hybrids ever created. Who was the first person to make them?</p>
<p>What constitutes a Titan King?<br />
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by jodrock &mdash; 2013-01-19 01:46:07 GMT</p><p>what do you think? was a mistake not done on purpose i bought a female bull and male northern pine from a guy said it was a breeding pair an i was like these are two diff snakes he said they had locked tails and sure enough this is what i got!!<br />
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1.0 normal BP Nicodemus<br />
1.0 BP Moufasa pos vanilla, fire, cinny<br />
0.4 Cal Kings 3 alb 1 het Dora Queen Ace Pearl<br />
2.0 Alb Corn Bizaar Elixir<br />
0.0.1 Rev Alb Nelsons Oden</p></div>
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  <title>Imperial Pueblans</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by jackm25 &mdash; 2012-11-18 20:33:00 GMT</p><p>When first starting to breed Pueblan X Banana Cal King towards the end result of Imperial Pueblans does it make any difference which one is male?</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by jackm25 &mdash; 2013-02-24 18:09:46 GMT</p><p>Thanks, As it turns out, I picked up an adult pair of apricot pueblans and an adult female banana cal king at the White Plains show. They are in brumation now.</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by Mesozoic &mdash; 2013-02-24 17:07:20 GMT</p><p>&gt;&gt;When first starting to breed Pueblan X Banana Cal King towards the end result of Imperial Pueblans does it make any difference which one is male?</p>
<p>It's usually easier with a male Pueblan, female King.<br />
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<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by jackm25 &mdash; 2012-11-18 20:36:37 GMT</p><p>Also do you use a regular pueblan or an apricot one?</p></div>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by halapremek &mdash; 2012-09-23 10:38:31 GMT</p><p>A few animals from last year JScorns</p>
<p><img class="img-fluid" src="http://halapremek.webgarden.cz/image/18571711"><br />
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0,1 Sinacorn<br />
1,0 Junglecorn<br />
0,1 Pyromex<br />
0,1 Pueblacorn<br />
1,1 Morelia viridis<br />
1,1 Morelia spilota variegata<br />
1,1 Elaphe carinata<br />
1,1 Acrantophis dumerili<br />
1,1 Boa constrictor<br />
4,6 Python regius<br />
1,2 Python molurus bivitattus<br />
0,0,1 Iguana iguana<br />
2,2,2 Rhacodactylus ciliatus</p></div>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by mordd &mdash; 2012-08-28 18:39:08 GMT</p><p>F1 californiae x sinaloae<br />
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  <title>striped normal super corn</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by crotalusco &mdash; 2012-08-27 18:55:32 GMT</p><p>loving these<br />
<img class="img-fluid" src="http://www.mosaicreptiles.com/photos/12-135SupercornHETghostmotley.JPG" alt="Image"><br />
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<p><a href="http://www.facebook.com/mosaicreptiles" target="_blank">  Mosaic Reptiles</a>-- Cornsnakes & hybrids</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by brianm616 &mdash; 2012-09-26 23:35:47 GMT</p><p>pretty sure it's 25% L.g.californiae and 75% P.g.guttatus.</p>
<p>If I had to guess, I'd go with the striped gene came from the getula side of the gene pool, in this case.</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by mrkent &mdash; 2012-09-26 03:57:09 GMT</p><p>I am not usually too crazy about hybrids, but that is a beauty!  What makes a super corn?<br />
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