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  <description><![CDATA[Crocodilia (or Crocodylia) is an order of large reptiles that appeared about 84 million years ago in the late Cretaceous Period (Campanian stage).

The correct vernacular term for this group is "crocodilians" and it includes the alligator, crocodile, gharial and caiman families. The term 'crocodiles' is sometimes incorrectly used to refer to alligators and caiman, or even their distant prehistoric relatives, "marine crocodiles".

Here you may post messages or questions pertaining to all aspects and issues regarding the keeping, breeding, health, and conservation of all Alligators, Caimans, and Crocodiles.

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  <title>Croc care</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by jcl &mdash; 2018-08-27 00:26:02 GMT</p><p>Yes im relatively new to keeping crocs i have two morelets and am concerned with their futureenclosure i live in south texas and was wondering if my info is correct on them not being able to over winter out side and if not what are thier requirements to over winter and how some of yall do this they are just little guys now but i want to try and get as much ahead of the game as possible i have  a 6,000 acres ranch so accomodating them out side is no problem and i have a couple of enclosed buildings to build them whatever i may need for winter  thier well being of utmost importance and ideas would be greatly appriciated</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by jcl &mdash; 2018-09-11 21:43:40 GMT</p><p>I guess no one knows the answer</p></div>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by JCL &mdash; 2018-08-24 10:35:11 GMT</p><p>Im new here to this forum and was wondering is this an active site not to much recent activity.</p></div>
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  <title>Alligators in north texas</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by mcmdillon &mdash; 2018-04-18 19:25:31 GMT</p><p>Hey yall, I am wanting to know where I can find alligators to take wild photographs of. They are incredible animals spanning from the time of the dinosaurs and I want to take photos of them to show people and teach them about them. I am in the DFW area<br />
Please send me a location of where I can find them if you know a place? thanks</p></div>
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  <title>Croc Self Defense</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by coffeecup &mdash; 2017-04-15 00:22:00 GMT</p><p>Hello, I'd like to know from experts if realistically you get attacked by a crocodile large enough to attack humans as prey, if you realistically have any chance of killing the croc by specifically stabbing or shooting it in it's brain? This is assuming you have a knife or gun in your hand.</p>
<p>Hindrances that come to mind are the obvious violence of croc attacks and if you'd even have a chance with the thrashing you'd be receiving. Also how tough is the crocs skin/skull at it's brain.</p>
<p>Is there any way to kill a croc during an attack?</p></div>
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  <title>Pic request (black caiman and alligator)</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by yautja901 &mdash; 2016-05-22 14:36:37 GMT</p><p>I am trying to find any picture with a Black Caiman side by side next to an American alligator (preferably babies and right next to each other --live shot not a collage with two separate pics together) for a decent wallpaper/desktop background. Can anyone help me?</p></div>
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  <title>American Alligator Coughing or Vocal?</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by sincereartisan &mdash; 2016-01-12 23:48:28 GMT</p><p>Anyone ever heard an alligator cough?</p>
<p>We have a very runty alligator who is only 3  feet ing and yet 9 years old.  She is healthy despite her stunted size, but in the past couple of weeks I've heard what sounds to me like a wheezy/whistle-like cough...I can try to get a recording of it.</p>
<p>To me it sounds exactly like the sound made when they tighten the lug nuts on your wheel at the auto shop...a kind of "Zhheeeew!"  ...In fact, so much so that I thought the noise was coming from the shop where my husband was reorganizing the garage and not the alligator.</p>
<p>She does this mostly when it is dark.  Maybe 3-6 times an hour.  It is not the same as her chirpy baby sounds, or a growl/hiss...I've heard those.  This is different.</p>
<p>My husband thinks she is calling for a mate or other gators.  But I'm reluctant to think so because she is small, and unless she were of breeding size I can't imagine why she would wish to draw that kind of attention to herself.</p>
<p>I've not noticed any discharge from her nostrils.  Her appetite is stellar.</p>
<p>I'll try and get a recording if possible.</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by DylanHess512 &mdash; 2016-11-30 17:16:39 GMT</p><p>This could be a number of things. I have not personally had that happen, although it could be a low air and water temperature, make sure both mediums are heated, with the water being slightly warmer than the air. Although if it still is young you wouldn't have a mating call, but babies call to make their mother aware, perhaps this habit was never broken, depending on how you treated the gator it could be a call for you or a friendly figure. Another and most severe of the three is a respiratory infection, an excess of mucus and flem in the throat and lungs can cause them to "sneeze" to try and get it out like they do with water when they emerge. I recommend you test these reasons. See if your company makes him stop. Or try heating up his temps, remember this is a Floridian reptile. Good luck <img class="img-fluid" src="https://forums.kingsnake.com/images/smiles/smile.gif" border="0" alt=""></p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by sincereartisan &mdash; 2016-01-13 00:28:23 GMT</p><p>I actually managed to catch a video:</p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjA0-72mmLA</p>
<p>No, I'm not pleased she is in a tank...even if it is 8 ft long.  She does have a decent little outdoor enclosure for the warmer months, though.  I've been on the bandwagon of having her go to a sanctuary for some time now, but no sanctuaries will write/call me back...and honestly I think my husband is reluctant to see her go.  Still.  Some habitat changes need to be made.  She gets adequate heat, though...her basking spot (via mercury vapor bulb) during the day reaches 90 degrees.  An aquarium heater keeps the water warm.</p></div>
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  <title>Target training</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by HofR &mdash; 2014-06-04 01:51:14 GMT</p><p>Does anyone know where I can find written protocols for target training crocodilians?</p></div>
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  <title>Morelets croc</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by justin stricklin &mdash; 2013-12-05 00:53:56 GMT</p><p>Does anyone on here know how to contact the person selling the morelets crocs on the croc classifieds? They didnt leave a number or anything. I used the message me thing but ive noticed that doesnt work alot of times when emailing someone<br />
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Justin</p></div>
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  <title>Crocodile University</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by shawnheflick &mdash; 2013-11-07 23:14:14 GMT</p><p>CROCODILE UNIVERSITY- Crocodilian Biology, Behavior, Husbandry and Conservation Course.</p>
<p>https://www.facebook.com/pages/Crocodile-University/499959956748766</p>
<p>Dates: Dec 9-14, 2013.</p>
<p>Hosted at Crocodile Manor; 240 Bay Tree Lane, Palm Bay, FL 32909</p>
<p>About:</p>
<p>Crocodile University is an intensive, hands-on, interactive and integrated educational course for individuals, groups and facilities who want professional training in Crocodilian Behavior, Husbandry, Biology and Conservation.</p>
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<p>Our mission is to provide professional training for individuals, groups and institutions in Crocodilian Husbandry, Biology, Behavior and Conservation.</p>
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<p>Developed and taught by IUCN Crocodile Specialists, Zoo Curators, Biologists and Veterinarian with over 100 yrs combined experience...Crocodile University is an intensive, hands-on, interactive and integrated educational course for individuals, groups and facilities who want professional training in Crocodilian Behavior, Husbandry, Biology and Conservation.</p>
<p>This is a 6 day course that concentrates on REAL WORLD and USABLE crocodilian husbandry, biology and training. It has been developed with LESS lecture...MORE hands-on!</p>
<p>JOIN US for one of the most intensive and interactive Crocodilian Courses on the planet!</p>
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<p>Flavio Morrissiey;IUCN Crocodile Specialist Group, Director - Gator Adventure Productions</p>
<p>Greg Lepera; IUCN Crocodile Specialist Group, Curator of Reptiles Retired - Jacksonville Zoo</p>
<p>Ken Alfieri; IUCN Crocodile Specialist Group, Zoological Director - Alligator Adventure</p>
<p>Kevin Oppenhiemer DVM; Reptile Specialist Veterinarian</p>
<p>General Information</p>
<p>Registration Fee is $895.00 per person and covers fees, breakfast and most lunches.</p>
<p>To REGISTER send us an email at sheflick@aol.com or CONTACT US via Facebook, phone or email.<br />
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  <title>Chinese Alligator found in  Rockford IL</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by wireptile &mdash; 2013-10-16 02:59:24 GMT</p><p>Rockford, IL –  Lawrence Bottums, 47 and homeless, was taking a nice nap in an abandoned boat near the Whitman Street bridge when he had to go pee pee.   Bottums calls the bridge “my favorite place in town to leave the best parts of me behind after a full day of snacking and napping.”  The middle-aged homeless vet made his way to the underpass from his boat bed and saw the unimaginable– an alligator taking a nap and not just any old alligator.</p>
<p>Bottums emailed RKFDnews.com immediately to send a staff photographer down to the bike path near the Whitman Street bridge and that’s when we saw the incredible reptile napping.  Lawrence took off running north on the bike path immediately once officers of the Rockford Dream Police’s Reptile Services Department showed up to capture the endangered species.</p>
<p>Further research conducted by the mighty Rockford Dream Police’s forensic biology department discovered it was one of the very few endangered Chinese Alligators. In an amazing twist of plot that has Rockford helping the United States deal with it’s budget problems, the endangered Chinese alligator is being returned to China immediately in an international deal that knocks one trillion dollars off the debts we owe our new mother country, China.  (Sorry England, no monies for you until we discover your endangered species to barter another trillion with.)<br />
http://rkfdnews.com/endangered-alligator-found-napping-near-whitman-street-bridge-and-rock-river/<br />
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<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by shadowguy &mdash; 2013-10-22 05:32:04 GMT</p><p>ENCLOSED PHOTOGRAPH DOESN'T BEGIN TO LOOK LIKE A CHINESE ALLIGATOR. DREAM POLICE FORENSICS INDEED.</p></div>
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  <title>Chinese vs American alligators</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by cfg123ca &mdash; 2013-06-02 15:44:35 GMT</p><p>Hi, I'm new here. I'm not a herpetologist (or biologist for that matter), so if this question seem incredibly stupid, please forgive me.</p>
<p>I've always wonder how the American alligator's closest cousin, the Chinese alligator, ended up half way around the world, separated by thousand of miles of ocean.</p>
<p>I mean, the Chinese and American alligators occupy roughly similar latitude (Eastern China Yangtze River basin vs Florida and Louisiana), both a fairly northern latitude for crocodilians. But that doesn't explain the longitude gulf that separate the two alligator species.</p>
<p>So how did the Chinese alligator ended up in China? And how did the American alligator ended up in Southeastern US?</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by wireptile &mdash; 2013-06-06 01:48:03 GMT</p><p>I would assume plate tectonics would explain that. The two areas were closer together or adjoined when the species evolved.</p></div>
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  <title>New Gators</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by gsarchie &mdash; 2012-11-30 07:42:42 GMT</p><p>I am getting two new American alligators in two weeks' time and was wanting to get in touch with anyone else who keeps the species.  I look forward to working with these animals and also to getting to know and getting advice from other folks out there that maintains the species in captivity.</p></div>
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  <title>Gharial fundraiser in Cleveland, Ohio</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by reptiletubs &mdash; 2012-11-27 16:19:03 GMT</p><p>The Greater Cleveland Chapter of the American Association of Zookeepers is having for gharial conservation.  The event is &quot;Christmas for Crocs&quot; and it will be at Buffalo Wild Wings in Fairview Park on Monday, December 3, 2012 from 4pm-9pm.   When you come, please print out the voucher and present it to your server.   Twenty percent of the food bill will go toward gharial conservation.</p></div>
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  <title>Importing Adults</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by snakehunter101 &mdash; 2012-11-14 05:11:44 GMT</p><p>A buddy of mine has an import license and he brings in baby dwarf caimans. Do you think adults would adjust well if they were brought in?</p>
<p>Thanks SH101</p></div>
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  <title>Morelet&apos;s crocodiles</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by brianfl33916 &mdash; 2012-04-29 11:35:44 GMT</p><p>Anyone know where I can some morelet's crocodiles from?  I haven't seen any for sale in a while. Have they banned import on them? Banned crossing state lines? Do they require a permit now?</p></div>
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  <title>Sexing Hatchling/juvenile crocs/caimans</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by wireptile &mdash; 2012-04-22 04:02:21 GMT</p><p>Can these be sexed with an otoscope, and if so, are there any online photos of the inner cloaca that shows the diagnostic features of each sex?</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by SHADOWGUY &mdash; 2012-04-24 06:53:24 GMT</p><p>YOU MIGHT TRY CONTACTING ANY OF SEVERAL COMMERCIAL CROCODILE FARMS IN AUSTRALIA VIA A GOOGLE SEARCH. ONE IN DARWIN AREA COMES TO MIND. I'VE SEEN VIDEO OF THEM CHECKING HATCHLINGS... CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS WITH A OTOSCOPE OR MERE TONGUE DEPRESSOR-LIKE TOOL. PRINCIPALLY LOOKING FOR A PROTRUDING STRUCTURE POINTING TOWARDS THE CLOACA THAT INDICATES A MALE. WITH LARGER ANIMALS IT IS ACCOPLISHED BY A SIMPLE INDEX FINGER INSERTION!</p></div>
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  <title>crossing state lines</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by arthur &mdash; 2012-04-07 22:24:14 GMT</p><p>if i brought it in another state and used a boat to bring it home. would that be crossing state lines.</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by PHFaust &mdash; 2012-04-08 15:28:22 GMT</p><p>&gt;&gt;if i brought it in another state and used a boat to bring it home. would that be crossing state lines.</p>
<p>Yes that is crossing state lines<br />
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  <title>Alligator ????</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by taylor88 &mdash; 2012-04-03 06:20:51 GMT</p><p>I have a alligator just under three feet long total length an he's feces is never solid it always looks like diaherrea I feed him live feeder mice,raw chicken,sometimes raw talapia. He's temps are all good in his enclosure. What could be the cause of this?</p></div>
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  <title>crocodiles in classifieds</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by MikeT &mdash; 2012-03-31 05:05:37 GMT</p><p>Does anyone know why there hasn't been any crocodiles for sale on KS for the longest time?</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by dewback &mdash; 2012-05-30 01:06:33 GMT</p><p>Is there anyone even out there currently dealing in those species? The regulation changes should only effect Niles and Australian Salties, correct?</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by GLZ &mdash; 2012-04-30 19:15:26 GMT</p><p>Since USFWS changed the special rule saying it no longer applies to live Nile's or Salties, it pretty much state locked everything.</p>
<p>Everything crocodile wise but hybrids, Johnston's, NG's and PNG blood porosus. Oh and Dwarf, Smoothfront caimans and hybrid caimans.<br />
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<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by CDieter &mdash; 2012-04-02 15:18:40 GMT</p><p>Not many out there on the market the last 12-18 months. A few groups here and there but not many at all anymore. Its likely a combination of finances and various regulations.<br />
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<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by ek &mdash; 2012-04-02 02:32:18 GMT</p><p>Goverment &quot;regulation&quot;.</p></div>
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  <title>Caiman peovlem</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by tbone21 &mdash; 2012-03-17 21:19:16 GMT</p><p>I have two dwarf caimans.  They are only about a foot long.  The one has a white mass on middle toe and the other has white patch on it's side.  Is this an infection or something or is this just some scar tissue from maybe a fight between the two at night? Any guesses or suggestions..<br />
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<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by shadowguy &mdash; 2012-03-19 09:30:54 GMT</p><p>Absent a test via veternarian it's hard to tell... They don't have to be in water constantly. As such you might apply an iodine solution to the affected areas (providone branded, at feed or some pet stores)and keep them out of water a few hours at a time and see how they respond. Fish remedies like malachite green or methylene blue in the water proper might help. Any change for the worse or spreading would demand vet intervention. They need clean (!) water; Moreso than alligators.</p></div>
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