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  <description><![CDATA[Mud turtle is the common name given to two genera of aquatic turtles, Kinosternon, found in North and South America, and Pelusios, found in Africa. Known for their dull shell colors and preferring shallow, slow moving bodies of water with muddy bottoms, and having a dome shaped carapace.

Musk turtle is the common name given to three genera of aquatic turtles, Sternotherus, Staurotypus, and Claudius, due to their ability to release a foul musky odor to deter predation. Found in North and Central America, they are very similar to the American mud turtles, but tend to have a more domed carapace, with a distinctive keel down the center.

Here you may post messages or questions pertaining to all aspects and issues regarding the keeping, breeding, health, and conservation of species and subspecies of Mud and Musk Turtles.

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  <title>Hypo/ light phase loggerhead musks</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by eclipses568 &mdash; 2015-01-24 01:03:36 GMT</p><p>Does anybody here breed or know who is currently breeding light phase, or hypo, or pastel loggerhead musk turtles?</p></div>
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  <title>Caging dime size stinpots and filtration</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by jusmebabe &mdash; 2013-08-18 20:33:26 GMT</p><p>I just purchased 2 Stinkpots that are the size of a dime.<br />
Any recommendations for tank size and filtration?<br />
I have small kritter keepers up to large, 2.5 gal aquarium, 5 gal, and 20 long (for later). Since I'm using a small tank how would I filtrate it?<br />
Thanks for any ideas and yes I have googled but nothing specific on turtles the size of a dime.</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by rick d &mdash; 2013-09-16 02:04:46 GMT</p><p>This forum isn't very active.  <br />
I keep small turtles like yours in a 20 gallon long with just a small inside floss filter.  I feed them every other day in another container.  I give them more than they will eat and give them at least 4 hours or so to eat.  Then I wash them off and put them back into the 20 gal long tank.  That way you don't have to clean out the larger tank very often.<br />
I feed them chopped small fish, worms and pelleted food.</p></div>
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  <title>Stink Pot Mass Killing--Please Respond!</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by Phrog &mdash; 2013-03-30 01:59:29 GMT</p><p>I need some advice ASAP! I was doing some field work with turtles this afternoon in several fish hatchery ponds.  At one of the ponds, mostly dried up, there was a bunch of dead carp around the edges.  More worrisome was there were a couple dozen dead/dying stinkpots (of all ages).  Other turtles in the pond (what looked like red-eared sliders from a distance) seemed to be doing ok.  There are also plenty of healthy turtles (including stinkpots) in the ponds adjacent and this is the only pond with dead fish and sickly turtles.  I brought in 5 of the smaller and worse off turtle and the rest I moved to the adjacent pond (more water, and we captured healthy stinkpots in early that day).  Of the 5, one has since died.  The other four are still hanging on.  So far, I have them in shallow clean water from home (shallow because most are too weak to even keep their heads up) with some antibiotics dissolved in.  Hopefully I can get them to make it through the night.  I need advice on what I should do for the ones I brought in (what can I get them to eat and any advice on remedies). And does anyone know of anything that could have happened to the water (the guy in charge of the hatchery claims no chemicals were used to wipe out the old-stock fish)? I just don't know what could have caused such an acute die-off (most turtles were still clinging to life, only about 4 had died recently it looked like).  If you have any advice at all it would be appreciated.</p></div>
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  <title>Keeping and breeding Adanson´s Mud turtl</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by vogelcommando &mdash; 2013-03-06 20:31:09 GMT</p><p>A few days ado I saw for the first time a pair of Adanson's mud turtles ( Pelusios adansonii ) at a local Reptilehouse. Also a house-bred young was on show.<br />
Now I want to ask if anybody can provide some more information about this rarely kept and bred species. I know it's kept in Europe at Iguana Reptilehouse Vlissingen ( the Netherlands, where I saw them ) and at Lisabon Zoo ( Portugal ). <br />
Further it seems to have bred at the Colombus Zoo ( USA ) in the late 1980-ties ) but further I wasn't able to find anything more.<br />
Can anybody tell me more about husbandry of this species ( size of enclosure, air- and watertemperature, food, breeding ( clutchsize, incubationtemperature and incubationtime ) and so on.<br />
Also I would be intrested to know if anybody can provide me with a identification-key for the Pelusios- mud turtles.<br />
Anybody with experience with this species who can help ????</p></div>
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  <title>New musk turtle...need help/advice.</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by awething &mdash; 2011-10-07 00:18:33 GMT</p><p>I recently acquired a baby common musk (or stinkpot) turtle from my herpetology lab at school and although I have a lizard at home, I'm not too familiar with turtle care. He's vary small (not more than an inch long and a couple months old) and currently I have him housed in a 5 gal tank. I have the tank set up on an angle so that one side has low water/dry ground (along with a flat rock) and the other side has about an inch or so of water. I have an infrared lamp as opposed to a basking lamp because I was told musks are not huge on basking. This stays on for about 12 hrs each day. I also have in there some fake plants, a hiding log, and some dead leaves for him to hide under. When I first got him a couple weeks ago he would only eat worms but eventually I got him on reptimen. However the last 5 days or so he hasn't eaten anything...I don't know whats wrong! The only thing that's changed about his habitat is that I added a small underwater heater because I was concerned the water temperature on the side without the lamp was too cold. Because of this, I don't think he is too cold to eat. I dont have a thermometer yet but he water feels quite warm, like bath water almost. In addition, today I noticed he has a kind of slimy film on his shell and feet...it comes of if I try but I didn't want to mess with it too much in case this is normal...</p>
<p>Could someone who knows about musks tell me what I might be doing wrong or how I can improve his habitat? Thank you!</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by awething &mdash; 2011-10-07 16:48:29 GMT</p><p>Once I get a thermometer, what temperature should I try and keep the water at?</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by rick d &mdash; 2011-10-07 03:35:35 GMT</p><p>The slime you refer to could be fungus.  I think you mix a teaspoon of salt per quart of water and put him in that.  I would google that to make sure you use the right amount of salt.  I think you can soak them in a stronger salt solution and then let it dry on them for a little while before putting them back in fresh water.  You need a thermometer to accurately monitor the temp.  I keep my hatchlings in about 2 to 3 inches of water with some fake floating plants so they can climb up to breathe.  He should be eating reptomin and chopped minnows but if it is a fungus he may be off feed.</p></div>
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  <title>Scorpion Mud turtles</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by mahlerfan &mdash; 2011-09-04 10:15:50 GMT</p><p>Is anyone else on this forum keeping Scorpion Mud turtles? I'm currently keeping pairs of both the northern and southern forms.<br />
Below is a comparison photo between the northern form (left)of Kinosternon scorpioides scorpioides and the southern form (right), which at one time was thought to be a different subspecies - Kinosternon scorpioides seriei. The most obvious difference is the greater adult size of the southern form. <br />
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<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by croc 2-3 &mdash; 2011-10-20 20:00:27 GMT</p><p>I enjoy my scorpions I'm hopefully going to pick up some bolivian locale which are large.</p></div>
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  <title>Stinkpot photo</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by jamesh &mdash; 2011-06-03 23:52:06 GMT</p><p>came across this little turtle today and took a few photos. just thought i would share this photo with everyone. <br />
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<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/25876304@N03/5794587435/in/photostream">Image</a></p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by fliptop &mdash; 2011-06-19 13:34:24 GMT</p><p>Cool! I'm a big stinkpot fan. Where are you/where did you come across the turtle? Thanks!</p></div>
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  <title>Breeding Razorbacks</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by bobmcloughlin &mdash; 2011-04-16 00:36:01 GMT</p><p>Is there any tricks to breeding razorback musk turtles? What size does the female razorback have to be to be able to breed? please, any info. would be great. thanks!<br />
Bob</p></div>
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  <title>2 Reeves</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by Reptile_Trey &mdash; 2011-04-04 00:47:51 GMT</p><p>I currently have 2 baby Reeves Turtles that I plan to put in a 150 gallon aquatic turtle tank, what kind of turtles can go with them? I was thinking stink pots?</p></div>
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  <title>Floating baby 3 stripe</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by snakeeyes1618 &mdash; 2011-02-24 11:32:07 GMT</p><p>A teacher at the school I work at found a baby 3 stripe on campus stuck in a crack in the sidewalk.  She came to me with it and asked if it would make a good classroom pet.  i of course said it was much better than any slider she would get with the size requirements ect.   Well she decided to keep it.  I gave her tons of sites that would help and gave her the minimum requiremnets that the turtle would need.  Well to make a long story shory all she did was put it in a small tupperware container with no lid and put it under an small lamp she had in her classroom.  i politely told her that would take it untill she got the tank etc.</p>
<p>So I have it here now with all the requirments that it needs  Having raised several other  babies int he same set/up.</p>
<p>WOW this is turning out longer than i thought.  oh well</p>
<p>Anyway the baby is floating on the surface and seems to not be able to sink to the bottom</p>
<p>Is there anything i can do for this?</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
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Scott<br />
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<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by curtis9980 &mdash; 2011-03-07 05:00:24 GMT</p><p>I've never seen a turtle not be able to work that out before. I've seen the problem. I would just make the water as shallow as possible and make sure there is plenty for it to grab on to so it doesn't tire and drown. Sticks, moss, rocks, etc.</p>
<p>Hopefully on here will have an answer. Good luck.</p></div>
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  <title>New 3-Striped Mud</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by curtis9980 &mdash; 2011-02-13 04:30:03 GMT</p><p>I wanted to share a couple pics of my new hatchling 3-striped. &quot;She&quot; is doing great, she even ate and did some swimming around the new tank. <br />
<img class="img-fluid" src="http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/curtis9980/Turtles/P2121820.jpg" alt="Image"></p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by curtis9980 &mdash; 2011-02-16 05:25:37 GMT</p><p>Thanks, Jeff! I will definitely hit you on that.</p>
<p>My wife posted a picture of the cutie on facebook and the comments were blown up.</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by boxienuts &mdash; 2011-02-15 02:16:22 GMT</p><p>Very nice Curtis, they just don't get any cuter than that. Although I also love seeing baby garter snakes too, but not everyone thinks baby garter snakes are cute, but I don't know anyone that would say that tiny little 3 stripe isn't cute, even if they are a fan of reptiles. <br />
Best of luck with him/her, when the time comes that you need a mate for him/her I might be able to help you out.<br />
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Jeff Benfer<br />
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  <title>Seeing 3-Stripes in my dreams</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by curtis9980 &mdash; 2011-02-10 00:45:02 GMT</p><p>Ever since I saw pictures of Jeff's 3-striped mud hatchlings on here, I've been hooked. I've been reading so much about them and talking to people and decided it's time to add another species to the fold.</p>
<p>I'm going to the NARBC this weekend, and a breeder is bringing me his last hatchling from last year, even though he's just attending the show and not setting up a booth. I'm pretty excited, so excited I set up a temporary tank this afternoon. I set a low water level, added some spag. moss, a basking area, and anacharis and a pine tree branch to give the little girl (if incubation temp proves right) plenty of areas to get relief.</p>
<p>I know this isn't a well-trafficked forum, but those of you that see this and have 3-stripes, share your thoughts on them. I can't get enough right now!<br />
<img class="img-fluid" src="http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/curtis9980/P2091814.jpg" alt="Image"></p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by curtis9980 &mdash; 2011-02-10 16:29:13 GMT</p><p>Thanks! Once the temps come up a little bit, I'm planning to build a part bog, part land setup right off my deck. I also hope to find a mate and get cracking on some breeding in a few years.</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by croc 2-3 &mdash; 2011-02-10 15:51:04 GMT</p><p>I dont keep 3stripes but that set up is great.I keep several other muds that do well in that type of tank/set up.</p></div>
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  <title>3 stripe mud laying eggs</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by boxienuts &mdash; 2010-11-22 00:40:54 GMT</p><p>Finally caught my female 3 stripe laying eggs, usually she does this during the day while I am at work, but last saturday was her time, so I was able to get some pics of here laying. She laid 6 eggs, this was her 5th clutch this year. <br />
<img class="img-fluid" src="http://gallery.kingsnake.com/data/1252562010_female_laying_eggs1-med.jpg"></p>
<p>-----<br />
Jeff Benfer<br />
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  <title>Claudius angustatus</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by txdragons &mdash; 2010-09-29 13:26:18 GMT</p><p>Here are some pics, hope you enjoy them..</p>
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<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by Efly &mdash; 2010-10-02 16:18:08 GMT</p><p>Do you have any pics of your set ups?</p>
<p>Thank you,</p>
<p>Eli</p></div>
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  <title>stinkpot aquarium size</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by tengallonman &mdash; 2010-09-05 22:00:54 GMT</p><p>My son has two stinkpots which are about 1.5 years old and are somewhere in the range of 2.5 inches (not too good at measuring them).  Anyway, they are in an aquarium which needs to be enlarged.</p>
<p>What is a general recommendation for a container and filtration which won't bankrupt me.</p>
<p>Thanks for any help.</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by croc 2-3 &mdash; 2010-09-17 10:14:35 GMT</p><p>A pair of Stinkpots can go in a 20 long & be ok. Any filter then can filter at least 40 gals for that size tank. These are less demanding turtles & can take a lot of rough conditions.</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by rick d &mdash; 2010-09-07 03:29:24 GMT</p><p>I have about a 4 inch stripe-neck musk in a 20 gallon long with an under gravel filter. The filter I use has two air stone tubes, one in each corner.  I feed the turtle in another container  before I go to work and then clean it and put him back in his regular tank when I get home.  It will last 2 to 3 months before cleaning.</p></div>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by tengallonman &mdash; 2010-08-28 23:09:11 GMT</p><p>My son has two stinkpot turtles which are about 3.5 inches in lenth.  A friend has a smaller turtle I believe to be a Mississippi Mud.  Can these turtles be housed together?</p>
<p>Also, are there any mud/musk turtle hybrids?</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by rick d &mdash; 2010-08-29 03:51:02 GMT</p><p>They can and may do well but if one decides to be the dominant turtle then he/she can make life miserable for the others.  I have a 30 year old ea. female eastern mud that was outside with a smaller female and a smaller male striped-neck.  They got so scared of her they didn't want to go in the water anymore.  I now have her in a 40 gal tank in the house.<br />
Yes, they can hybridize.  I have a female stripe neck/common musk turtle that is about 18 years old.</p></div>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by seahorses4ever &mdash; 2010-08-22 20:43:05 GMT</p><p>Sorry if this is wordy. It is my first post. If you don't wanna read much, in a nutshell, I have an eastern mud turtle who we thought was a boy...but she's not because she just laid egg(s)and we need some advice. Her habitat is outside but we'll have to move it inside. I've read that eastern mud turtles kind of care for their eggs so I don't want to just take them from her because she's made a nest and hasn't left it. What should I do?</p>
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<p>My boyfriend and I *love* turtles. We live in the mountains of NC but I am from the coast. When I went to visit my family in June, my dad found a turtle and gave it to me. I kept turtles when I was growing up but I'm not sure what kind they were. Apparently I used to bring home all sorts of creatures so my dad just gave in and built a screen box habitat for me on the back porch and I could just put whatever I wanted in there. I had two baby turtles for the longest time, a garden snake, some frogs, minnows and crawfish. I always fed my turtles reptomin and they liked it. (Eventually they ended up eating the crawfish too.) I never had a problem caring for any of these animals and by the time I started middle school I'd let them all go so I figured hey, I can definitely take care of this turtle.</p>
<p>Anyway, my dad told me it was &quot;a water turtle.&quot; They don't have the internet so I decided to take the turtle back with me and give it to my boyfriend for his birthday. I should've let it go but I didn't know if it was injured and I thought it'd be a nice, meaningful gift.</p>
<p>We named him Jack Kerouac because we found him On The Road (literary reference.) We made him a nice habitat with both dirt, rocks, and water and all he wanted to do was bury himself. We tried feeding him reptomin, earthworms, crickets, roly-polies (probably a regional term for those little grey bugs that live in rotten wood and roll up into little balls when you mess with them,) both raw and cooked chicken, and canned tuna. He wouldn't eat. I took him outside and let him walk around in the woods but he just tried to bury himself there as well.</p>
<p>We moved into a house about a week and a half after I brought him home and we were able to create a giant habitat for him. It has a shallow pool of water (about 2&quot<img class="img-fluid" src="https://forums.kingsnake.com/images/smiles/wink.gif" border="0" alt=""> and a deeper pool of water (about 6&quot<img class="img-fluid" src="https://forums.kingsnake.com/images/smiles/wink.gif" border="0" alt="">, gravel, aquarium rocks and organic potting soil. We planted a sweet potato plant which has since taken over the habitat so he has plenty of shade. He likes eating the leaves and roots. We filled it full of eathworms and he probably eats them too. I put feeder fish in there sometimes but he hasn't eaten one yet. The habitat is outside so there's a lot of bugs and other things (like slugs) living in it too. Recently he's been spending most of his time in the deeper water.</p>
<p>Two days ago I took him out so I could clean the water. It is distilled water and rainwater. We empty it and spray it out every couple of days because it does not have a filter since he lives outside. (We will set one up soon.) When I was cleaning it I found what I thought was a rock but when I picked it up I realized it was an egg! We're pretty good at researching things and we were both in agreement that Jack was a boy because of the shape of his shell and his tail and claws. Wrong.</p>
<p>I didn't know what to do with the egg so I took it out and placed it in a small container of rainwater and went inside and looked it up. After reading, we went back outside and buried the egg in her habitat. We cleaned the water and put her back in.</p>
<p>At first she got back in the water but then that night she got out and made a little nest where we'd put the egg. She's been in the nest for a day and a half. The top of her shell is visible but that's it. When she buried herself before, it was as deep as she could go.</p>
<p>The soil is very moist because it's been raining. The temperature this week has ranged from about 68*-85*. It is going to get cooler and her species is not native to this area. I feel guilty about not thinking it over before I brought her, and we were going to take her back in September on our vacation but now that she has eggs we think we'll move her inside. I know that the egg I found in the water will probably not hatch. I don't know if she has laid more eggs because I don't want to disturb her.</p>
<p>I read somewhere that eastern mud turtles kind of care about their babies and that's probably why she's nested. I don't want to take the egg(s) away from her as long as she's in her nest with them.</p>
<p>So, if she leaves, should I take them? Will it upset her? I know now to keep them in their original position and that they need moist soil and a temperature of around 85*. I know to put them in a box in a warm place. Does it need a lid? Do I need a reptile light for the eggs?</p>
<p>If there's more than one, should I take them all out or leave them all, or maybe do half and half? Should I just pick her up and see how many eggs I can find, or should I not disturb her? We'd really like for them to survive. If this happened we'd likely keep the babies until we could take the time to go to my parents' and set them free in their natural habitat when it's warm enough. We'd probably keep one of the babies if we could.</p>
<p>Advice, please.<br />
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<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by rick d &mdash; 2010-08-24 03:22:52 GMT</p><p>No, there is no parental care once the eggs are laid.  I would get some vermiculite from Walmart or a plant store.  It holds alot of water and is great for hatching eggs.  Get a plastic shoe box and soak the vermiculite in another container and hand squeeze as much water out of it as possible and put it in the shoe box until you have a depth of about 2.5 inches .  Place the eggs in there with the tops showing but DON'T TURN them.  Try to keep them about 80 to 82 degrees and they should hatch in around 65 to 70 days.  <br />
Let me know how it goes with them.  I've done it lots of times and it works fine.  If you have any extra when they hatch let me know.  I found a hatchling near Charleston, SC on April 9, 1980 and she's still going strong.<br />
Rick Dowling<br />
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by rick d &mdash; 2010-08-09 03:22:04 GMT</p><p>Frank Slavens used to put out a book with longevity records of many species of R&A.  I don't think he's doing it anymore but does anyone know who may be keeping longevity records? I have an eastern Mud turtle that I found as a hatchling on April 5, 1980.  I don't think that's a record but he may be coming close.</p>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by boxienuts &mdash; 2010-07-23 04:35:45 GMT</p><p>Tonight I was talking on the phone to my friend Lee about ball pythons, other snakes, fish and aquarium plants ect. ect. and when we started the conversation I noticed one of the eggs were cracked, ....half hour later I checked back and this little fellow was already out and about. <br />
This is the smallest and cutest turtle that I have personally hatched out. Look at how tiny the little feet are, this tiny little one is already full of spunk and ready to take on the world.<br />
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<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by avtomatic &mdash; 2011-02-02 16:48:57 GMT</p><p>i found one of these guys in a parking lot yesterday.  about the size of a nickel.  and i need some care instructions and especially feeding hatchlings.  thanks and those guys are beautiful!</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by boxienuts &mdash; 2010-07-29 15:58:59 GMT</p><p>The last one hatched out last night, so 6 for 6, also have another 4 egg clutch incubating from the same female, I just have the one pair that I raised from hatchlings, pretty good for there first breeding season if they produce 10 hatchlings.<br />
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<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by boxienuts &mdash; 2010-07-27 04:17:55 GMT</p><p>4 hatched 2 more to go.<br />
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by BosleyBugg &mdash; 2010-06-24 15:22:49 GMT</p><p>I've been looking for a striped mud turtle and most of the babies I found were $10-$20 each, and the two most expensive places I saw them they were $40 each. I live in Canada and I couldn't get any from these places though, because shipping would have been an issue. When I found a guy with some I would be able to get, he was asking $100 each! I couldn't believe it. Another guy wanted $100 for an old WC male, and a guy I've been emailing now wants $110 each for his babies and $150 for his adults. What's a normal price for striped mud turtles?! It's driving me crazy, I've been looking for one for a long time but these prices seem ridiculous. Does anyone know where I might be able to find a striped mud turtle or a Mississippi mud turtle for a reasonable price?</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by jkruzic &mdash; 2010-07-05 05:54:09 GMT</p><p>I live in Canada too and it does suck when you compare the prices between the two countries.  There is a lot of red tape involved in trying to import a turtle from the USA even if you drive and bring it across the border yourself.  I think most of the muds and musk that you see in Canada have been smuggled in or captive breed from smuggled parents. I have about 20 musk and muds in my collection and I paid around $100 for each of them.  The only thing I can add is that $100 is really not the much when you consider how long they live for, and how entertaining they are.  Good Luck</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by megalon &mdash; 2010-06-26 11:24:36 GMT</p><p>anything cheaper,and you'll have to deal with shipping.i've never gotten or sent a herp to another country,but i imagine that there's   plenty of hoops to jump through to do it.have you considered a road trip to the U.S.,and just pick one up here cheaper?<br />
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<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by rick d &mdash; 2010-06-25 02:50:06 GMT</p><p>There's a couple in the turtle classifieds that's selling them.</p></div>
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