i know what all the species around here look like, but i never actually got them outa the water. it look like rocks that were the shape of turtles just laying on the bottom. but there it was murky sorta and the shells had silt or whatever over the shells so i couldnt see the shell color. one was on top of another one sitting at the bottom of a small channel in about 3 feet of water. i poked it with a stick and i saw it flip over and thats when i saw the red. ill prob go back there tomoro, but should i not disturb them or take them outa the water? wil that mess up their hibernation or whatever? if not then ill probly walk in that damn river and pick them up to see what they are.

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