>>Can you provide a photo of the tail? BOTH sexes have a horny spike at the tail tip but the mail has a huge tail.

Really? I'd read in a book that only males have the hard spike on the end of the tail.
My painted was 3 years old when he flashed me, he was a CB hatchling when I got him 12 years ago. As he grew up he grew the long nails & the long thick tail with the cloaca far away from the plastron so I've known for sure for years that he's male. As a male he's quite the aggressive turtle too. If he were a large turtle he'd be dangerous.

Scooter though has never flashed me, as I understand it they reach puberty at a later age than painted & sliders do but at 10 years he should have reached & passed that by now.
So I just assumed that he's a boy based on that spike.
I'll get a pic ASAP & post it.
Geeze it could change my whole perspective if he's a she. lol
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