Who said Tortoises need UVB/UVA? I've kept many different types/species of Chameleons/Torts/Lizards that eat,sleep,poop, and breed without any problems at all, and havn't seen a lick of any type of artificial lighting. Some are exposed to sunlight for short periods of time, but not enough to help with D3 conversion. Proper diet and supplementation go along way, and most of the time are over shadowed by all these fancy money wasting bulbs. Instead of spending X amount on these bulbs, spend that money perfecting your animals physical and nutritional needs. And No, using UVA and UVB will not make your animal brighter and more colorful, its all in the way the scales refract light, and the scales refract incandescent light differently than Flourescent/other types of UVA/UVB bulbs

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