Thanks Bert. I'd like to get a pair of one of the rarer, exotic ratsnakes like these and try to breed them eventually, but of course would do a lot more research first. I don't mind about not handling, because despite the fact as you say corns don't mind being handled, I still think they prefer to be left alone; so I don't handle my corns, kings or trinkets much anyway. As I'm sure you know, by the time you own a certain number of snakes, you don't find a lot of time for handling with all the cleaning and feeding! I do think often over the months, snakes calm down just with smelling your hand in their tank when you change the water etc - that's the technique I use with my hatchlings. I don't handle them - I just leave them alone; and then I find after a few months that they don't rush off and hide any more when I take the lid off. But of course species like these may well not calm down nearly so easily.

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