Hi Jerry

A friend of mine and I was out herping in AZ in '01 and was fortunate enough to encounter a yearling male after an early morning rain in the Sta. Rita Mnts. My friend was working with the Baubel line pyros and that time so he wanted to keep (we have the proper permits of course) the animal with the plan of bringing fresh blood to his collection and outcrossing the Baubel line. The male did very well, ate right from the start, and is still thriving and breeding today. What I've noticed that the animals are still keeping some of the cleanliness and wide bands when bred to the Buabel line but I have not seen any as extreme as what Jeff produced with his 5th generation animals. Some of those outcrossed animals are out there and should be breeding now. Here's a pic of that WC male and I think it helps that he is a very good clean specimen which has a strong influence with his offspring.

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Jonel M. Lopez

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