The good majority of NERDs Tokays are WC. Yet somehow he gets them tame. All the ones on his site you see that are being held are WC. Me and Kev have talked a lot and we both agree you have to establish trust with them. They dont know people and dont trust, if you dont to grabbing them and gently get them up on your had they will learn you arnt there to hurt them and will eventually trust you and let you just pick them up. It does take time, lots of work, ability to take pain. . lots of pain. .but will pay off if your willing to do it. But yes. . they are like little vampires lol.

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