i contacted the person who has several of these in an aquarium. i did a huge double take when i heard where he had been catching these and thought cinerea, but couldnt believe it, so wondered about yearling grays and finally j/ took a pic and posted for a second opinion. i have all the connections for a note in Herp Review and am currently seeking an ID confirmation from several herpetologist. a voucher should be easy to obtain and a trip to the area to listen to frog calls is in the works. Minton suspected cinerea may show up in the evansville area. several years ago mole salamanders (A. talpoideum) turned up in Indiana. I appreciate the input and will gladly keep you posted.
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2 tham radix
1 Chicago Tham s. semifasciatus
2 elaphe vulpina
1 gray tiger sallie
4 Aphonopelma hentzi
2 G rosea
1 Haplo minax

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