I live in Mass. and I'm pretty sure anything native to the state other than snappers, painteds, and muds (which I've never even seen)are not to be kept or sold.As for grandfathered in I've never heard that.My spotteds are actually painteds with a lot of yellow spots.Ya can't even get a permit which is stupid if ya ask me.If people got a permit and bought only captive born turtles, the state could use the permit money for conservation land,and other areas to protect the wild populations of spotteds and bogs.Just my 2cents

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