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RE: Desert Short Horned Lizards

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Posted by: reptoman at Sun Nov 16 13:28:25 2008  [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by reptoman ]  
   

I agree with Fireside, as far as the name, while all have been concluded under hernandezi--so one might assign that description, actually my understanding and I could be wrong is that too is just a P. hernandezi? And I have been harping on this for years, because those of us who do handle these lizards and have an experienced background certainly can delineate by the frill, and horns this lizard is not a P. hernandezi. There has been a move by university teaching I am aware of to simplify classifications, and I have seen this with Collared Lizards, yet there are distinct differences in certain collared lizards yet they too are concluded under one name C. collaris. I have a picture of a horned lizard from around Winslow Arizona which if I can find it can post you might find interesting as it too is orange in color very nice, but it has no horns on its head and a pronounced frill almost as large as hernandezi but but much larger than formerly Douglusii and has body similar to a solare or maybe like the one you just posted?
This one only has one horn on the out side quadrant of the frill. otherwise the horns are not evident not even nubs sort of like douglassi? My point is that there is a need for someone who handles these lizards and has a clear understanding of what they are working with to do something to change what is the current taxa on these lizards....Cheers. If I can find that picture I wil post it for your comments. It may be already something common, but the frill size and lack of horns even in a short horn makes me question it some?
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