I finally measured "Big Jack", aka the giant. LOL. He is 23 inches total, and 11 inches SV length. I guess the size of the Varius Nick and Austin has grown to. He is so docile. If anythng or anybody bothers him, he just shakes his head back and forth with quick jerky movements, and he is so big, he just kind of flops around when you pick him up until you can stabilize the legs and tail. But being handled doesn't concern him one bit!

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