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RE: terrapene ornata or luteola?

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Posted by: boxienuts at Sat Jul 11 11:37:09 2009  [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by boxienuts ]  
   

My first thought when I saw the first photo, was 3-toed looking "clown" head too, could be natural wild population occuring or captive hybridization. I also agree that the 2nd pic of the second set, while no striking visual cues to male in the tail or any real width and elongation, and can't really see if the rear inside claw is hooking inward, the eyes and shape of the front face do look a bit male though. I know exactly what you mean Ken about the males stare, red eye color aside there is something very distictive about the look on a males face, the head is more blocky and angle of the lid above the eye makes them look cross, serious, or kinda pissed off, they just look "meaner". I have also noticed that for what ever reason that the pupil is smaller in relationg to the iris in males than females, this also holds true in those two photos.
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