Hiya Rick,

these adults are just under 30 inches, the female being slightly larger. I don't have an exact measurement, but they are rather "stout". These are indeed pure zz and have all the characteristics including the white ventral marker on the first red ring. will post an additional pic or two once i am able to access online service from my own PC......we are experiencing technical difficulties.........how are things?
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Jerry Kruse


And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

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