return to main index

  mobile - desktop
follow us on facebook follow us on twitter follow us on YouTube link to us on LinkedIn
Southwestern Center for Herpetological Research  
click here for Rodent Pro
Mice, Rats, Rabbits, Chicks, Quail
Available Now at RodentPro.com!
Locate a business by name: click to list your business
search the classifieds. buy an account
events by zip code list an event
Search the forums             Search in:
News & Events: Herp Photo of the Day: Happy Rattlesnake Friday! . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day: Crocodile . . . . . . . . . .  St. Louis Herpetological Society - Sept 14, 2025 . . . . . . . . . .  San Diego Herp Society Meeting - Sept 16, 2025 . . . . . . . . . .  Colorado Herp Society Meeting - Sept 20, 2025 . . . . . . . . . .  Chicago Herpetological Society Meeting - Sept 21, 2025 . . . . . . . . . .  Bay Area Herpetological Society Meeting - Sep 26, 2025 . . . . . . . . . .  Suncoast Herp Society Meeting - Sept 27, 2025 . . . . . . . . . .  Suncoast Herp Society Meeting - Sept 27, 2025 . . . . . . . . . .  DFW Herp Society Meeting - Sep 27, 2025 . . . . . . . . . .  Tucson Herpetological Society Meeting - Sept 29, 2025 . . . . . . . . . .  Greater Cincinnati Herp Society Meeting - Oct 01, 2025 . . . . . . . . . . 
Join USARK - Fight for your rights!
full banner - advertise here .50¢/1000 views
click here for Rodent Pro
pool banner - $50 year

RE: Thiaminase and feeder fish for Drys

[ Login ] [ User Prefs ] [ Search Forums ] [ Back to Main Page ] [ Back to Indigo Forum ] [ Reply To This Message ]
[ Register to Post ]

Posted by: skiploder at Wed Oct 7 00:15:30 2009  [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by skiploder ]  
   

Salmon and trout are always good choices. I've never had a problem getting young drys to take trout or salmon fillets.

I did some research on silversides awhile back and discovered that only one brand of commercial frozen silversides were actual silversides (which are free of thiaminase).

The others were assorted baitfish and all contained thiaminase.

For example:

Hikari is using pseudohemiculter dispair which is a cyprinid (as are goldfish and other known carriers of thiaminase). My bet would be that they contain thiaminase - the rep even wrote back that they add thiamin to these fish to counteract thiaminase.

That's junk science and doesn't help - Hikari should know better. Hikari silversides are not silversides and should be avoided.

H20 Life Foods says that they use "blue anchovies" from Vietnam. These could be either engraulidae, stolephorus or cetengraulis. The fact that they can't tell me which species it is and the fact that they are - like Hikari - mislabeled as silversides is a big red flag.

Engraulidae are confirmed carriers of thiaminase. So H20 Life Foods also is a no - no.

OmegaSea uses Hemisalanx Prognathus Regan (Salanx Sp.) Hemisalanx are related to true smelts. Some smelts have thiaminase. Some do not.

There is nothing I can find verifying their claims that Salangidae are thiaminase free.

However, it is clear that these are also not true silversides.

SF Bay Brand was the only one I cold verify are selling true silversides (menidia menidia) free of thiaminase.


   

[ Reply To This Message ] [ Subscribe to this Thread ] [ Hide Replies ]


>> Next topic:  Rainy day up here in the PNW - tokaysrnice, Sat Oct 17 21:25:01 2009
<< Previous topic:  Reluctant Feeders? - copperhead13, Fri Oct 2 19:35:20 2009