Thanks for the reply Vichris, sounds like your outdoor situation is perfect, south facing with leaves piled up should due the trick nicely. The nice thing about a pile of leaves exposed to the elimants outdoors is that even in the winter they are decomposing and giving off a little heat. I bet you will produce lots of little ones next year.

I still have them in the garage, I did put them on a piece of carpet like you said, as the concrete floor would really be cold. When it gets -20 to -30 in January, Febuary I plan to put a small heat pads under one end of the tubs just to keep them from turning into frozen rocks (the ones that don't get very warm, for non-desert retiles, but I think being in the garage with better humidity, more exposure to outdoor natural air, and total darkness will better simulate a more natural brumation this year and maybe maybe, just maybe, fingers crossed, get some eggs next summer.

I didn't have much time to spend out in the woods this fall due to being so busy at work with the H1N1 flu. I will send you a PM.
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Jeff Benfer

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