Bill, Thanks,I was checking for someone in CT.that cant get cypres there. I wasnt sure what else works as good that wont mold up when damp. If you come all the way to Jax,then you must come to St.Aug to visit me and my collection. I'd be honered to have you. We can catch the St.Aug.Gator farm too. They are walking around in 60F weather after being out in 32F the night before. They appear to be even tuffer than I ever thought. Even after weeks and weeks on end of 28F to 38F some were breeding yesterday after a little rain. Their pre-programed for globel cooling! Vic

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