StephF, all one has to do to get what I mean is look at the laws Many States have passed. Most all only allow a small number of box turtles to be kept and even then do not allow for captive breeding.
I was told that the point of view by those in charge in most of these States is that there is no good being done in captive breeding the box turtles because they do not feel they could ever be released back into the wild. So they feel there is not a reason to keep them at all.
Most of these laws when passed do hurt captive breeders of box turtles. If they pass laws like this in your State they will not see you as a box turtles expert and give you lead way to keep doing it. They will do what they did to all of the others before you and tell them have to stop breeding them.
Maybe if you just look at the laws that have been passed and then make a few phone calls to those States and see what they tell you about captive breeding.
When you put something on a list that says it is protected that doesn't mean they are stopping development from killing them or any other kind of actual management of the species listed. It only means they have automatically made it so you are no longer allowed to have them. Thus basically only shutting down captive breeding. About the only good it may do is stop large scale pet store collection and that's about it. But this could have been done without shutting captive breeding down. They could do better if they would at least make some sort of special allowances for those that can do a good job of captive breeding box turtles but they do not as they hold the idea in mind that captive breeding is of no conservation value to the wild population.
So what I am saying is they should change there mind about captive breeding box turtles and make special allowances for it.
Did I do or say something wrong here StephF ? Or would you like to cheer them on to your State so they can shut you down to?
For the sake of conservation of box turtles we need to make them see the value in captive breeding and then make allowances for people that can do to do just that. You can't make the system better if you ignore the reality of the facts and then blindly cheer them on StephF.
It makes no since to me that you keep and breed box turtles and so many States have passed laws against it and you don't get that it has even happened or that it is not a good conservation move and needs to be corrected.
If you agree with them. then put your money where your mouth is and get rid of all of your box turtles so you can demonstrate how much you support there agenda rather than just attack anyone that has a better idea of how things could be done.
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