To all, thanks for the comments. That's what I was looking for. No hurt feelings at all.
The Tortoises have not had any Avocado as of yet, and the other "off menu" items are in very limited amounts.
The absolute best thing I think they are getting is the natural "sugar sand" or dirt sprinkled on their food same as Calcium. Just my opinion, but I believe most feed a way too refined and sterile diet. That's part of the pyramiding problem I think. There are some awfully bad looking tortoises posted on the classifieds and other pages.
My baby tortoises are outside since last night. We'll see how it goes.
To the concerned, rest assured I have considerable experience with turtles and tortoises. See the two links. These guys are popping!
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

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