Well, you missed the point. We all know these people are after PRIVATE PEOPLE and not their Conservation buddy's that do it in the name of Science.(the, "animals should only be held by instatutions" part) I stated that I didnt recomend it for the use he did it for. I personally dont think anyone should drill holes in a perfectly good tortoise shell, but I'm not going to call PETA /HSUS on the current practices of Science. AR's are BAD NEWS, and we need to point out their warpped sense of thinking everytime we see it used. They love seeing you agree with them, even though they hate you too, Stalin's usefull idiot thory. Look out their coming for your Hamster. VM........pic caption........"dont let me down" j.lennon.....the x Beatle not the other Russan Leader

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