As a kid growing up here in sarasota the parents would bring us to the beach pretty often, I only remember ever seeing 3 - 5 footers in the dunes or tall grass areas, I always thought of them as just a racers lighter colored cousin, till I was bout 30, up in manatee co. in a big field with huge brush piles and lots of dumped carpet, rats everywhere, I'm walking along and allofa sudden I look up and see a black head, 20 inches off the ground and doin mach speed, so I book it and catch up and as I approached he stopped and rose his head 4 feet off the ground and faced me at near eye level, his mouth was half open, toung pinned out, extended full length and moving up and down at the tip like a worm and it mouth was easily 3&1/2 inches from nosetip to the jaw hingepoint, thats 7 inches of teeth! the only thing missing was fangs and drool, he measured 90" and totaly changed my vision of coachwhips and now I cant say enough, like that their the new indigos.. n still cheap. the only snake more intimidating is a big EDR oa a pissed off 6' Pinesnake. JB

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