Your male(top pic) also looks quite similar to this specimen, especially in regards to the head pattern, the black spots behind the eyes and the light centered, triangular nuchal blotch. How I wish we could legally collect thayeri! There are so many wild variations that are not represented well in collections. You can hunt game and fish in Mexico but you can't collect herps. Where's the logic in that? Oh well, retorhical question I guess.



It is encouraging to me that there are still some "wild-type" thayeri in collections. Hopefully with more knowledge of the many phenotypes expressed in the wild we can bring some captive lines back to that natural appearance. Not all of them of course, I mean I still like the line bred ones too. I just want both, lol.



Here's the wild thayeri I was talking about; basicly just a higher band count version of yours with less red on the head:






Wild thayeri # 2.


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