return to main index

  mobile - desktop
follow us on facebook follow us on twitter follow us on YouTube link to us on LinkedIn
Click here for LLL Reptile & Supply  
click here for  Animal Specialties
Mice, Rats, Rabbits, Chicks, Quail
Available Now at RodentPro.com!
Locate a business by name: click to list your business
search the classifieds. buy an account
events by zip code list an event
Search the forums             Search in:
News & Events: Herp Photo of the Day: World Croc Day . . . . . . . . . .  The Reddest of the Reds . . . . . . . . . .  Edmonton Reptile & Amphibian Society Mee - June 18, 2019 . . . . . . . . . .  MAHS Fox Valley Meeting - June 21, 2019 . . . . . . . . . .  Suncoast Herp Society Meeting - June 22, 2019 . . . . . . . . . .  ReptiCon Salisbury - June 22-23, 2019 . . . . . . . . . .  ReptiCon Memphis - June 22-23, 2019 . . . . . . . . . .  ReptiCon Kissimmee - June 22-23, 2019 . . . . . . . . . .  Northern Virginia Reptile Expo - June 22, 2019 . . . . . . . . . .  Chicago Herpetological Society Meeting - June 26, 2019 . . . . . . . . . .  Bay Area Amph. and Reptile Society Meeti - June 28, 2019 . . . . . . . . . .  ReptiDay Gainesville - June 29, 2019 . . . . . . . . . . 

full banner - advertise here .50¢/1000 views
click here for the St. Louis Reptile & Exotics Show
pool banner - $50 year

RE: Why are rubber boas so hard to find?

[ Login ] [ User Prefs ] [ Search Forums ] [ Back to Main Page ] [ Back to Rubber Boas ] [ Reply To This Message ]
[ Register to Post ]

Posted by: RichardFHoyer at Fri May 6 16:42:48 2011  [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by RichardFHoyer ]  
   

Zach, others:
A number of issues are contained in Zach's post which I will dwell on individually in separate posts.

Elevating the subspecies Charina bottae umbratica to species status (Charina umbratica), was premature as was the scientific community's willingness to recognize the new species based on a single published account. In reviewing a pre-publication draft of that mtDNA paper, I informed one of the co-authors of a number of glitches but the paper was published containing those glitches .

Within the past two years, a more comprehensive mtDNA study was completed that involved a master thesis project. The thesis project is likely to be completed by next month. There is some reasonable expectations that the results of that study will eventually get published, at least that is my hope and the hope of the grad student.

Combined with information of a morphological nature I have recorded on various C. bottae populations found throughout parts of S. Calif., results of this new mtDNA recent study not only challenges the separate species scenario, but doubt may also arise about the subspecies designation for Charina bottae umbratica or Southern Rubber Boa which officially is designated to occur only in the San Bernardino and San Jacinto Mts. east of L.A. I can provide additional detail if anyone is interested.

Richard F. Hoyer (Corvallis, Oregon)


   

[ Reply To This Message ] [ Subscribe to this Thread ] [ Show Entire Thread ]


<< Previous Message:  RE: Why are rubber boas so hard to find? - Zach_MexMilk, Thu May 5 21:07:03 2011