Kelly, Thanks a bunch for taking the time to list them. At least now I have something to go by. There are a zillion out there now but who knows whats trash and what works now days. We know that 1 or 2 degrees makes the difference in sex, a kinked up animal or worst of all the "what the hell did I do wrong feeling" bottled up all year until you have another chanch. Its not rocket Science but damn close from our point of view. Even though I do tortoises now I started off with snakes. You never forget your first Burmese Python hatching, in fact you never recover from it. It burnes the drive to breed Reptiles into your soul. Come by anytime. Vic

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