>>We know half the bloodline is pure 9 mile, and half of the bloodline is from 10 miles east.

Okay, maybe that is the case. Not saying it isn't. Just wonder why I would hear something different from Gerry, Dave, and Ric?

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>>Dusty, no offense, but if this is how you're going to take and accept data for your study you might as well flush the paper right now.


Well, let's get one thing straight on the study -- the only thing I'm using at this point are wild-caughts, and from trusted sources. I'll go on to F1s if and when I need them, and I don't even think Ric's stock would be F1s.

For what it's worth, I wouldn't use Ric's 9-milers since they're (1) not wild-caughts, (2) there is questionable doubt among the community (3) there are other WC 9-mile N animals I could get samples from, and (4) you have to do and sell science as being vigorously anal-retentive regarding your data sources. Since you have family in academic herpetology, Joe, I know this is nothing you don't already know...just sayin'.

Herpetoculture isn't science, and as a snake BREEDER, that was all I needed was someone's word. And even if they were generics, I bought the Anerys because they looked cool. Locality data was just an (perceived?) added plus. To me they look like the 9-mile N animals that Bryan Box and others have caught -- BUT pictures of "genealogical stock" don't prove anything.

And finally, getting data from outside sources and taking their word that it is legit is done all the time in academia. ANYbody can upload data to Genbank, for instance. And how many high-impact, heavily-cited papers have relied on Genbank for data? Untold thousands. No science is perfect, but I can tell you I will be doing the best I can to both (a) include other serious fellow hobbyists in research and (b) to do the best science possible. If there are any other snags in my data, methods, etc. I hope you and others here bring it up promptly (hopefully, I can count on some folks here to do this BEFORE I submit it for publication). : ) That's what this is for. : )

Cheers,


DR

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