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RE: Carlsbad Caverns NP Alterna?

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Posted by: Aaron at Mon Jul 18 21:00:52 2011  [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by Aaron ]  
   

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http://www.wildlife.state.nm.us/conservation/documents/G_Banded_King_Snake_06.pdf

RECOVERY AND CONSERVATION OF THE GRAY-BANDED KINGSNAKE



Interesting link. I wonder, what are NM alterna "recovering" from, lol?



On a more serious note, I was puzzled by this statement:



"Unregulated take of gray-banded kingsnakes by commercial and private collectors

is the most significant threat to the species in New Mexico. Specimens collected from

New Mexico are highly desirable in the pet trade."



This would seem to indicate that prior to NM protecting alterna, overcollecting was a problem. Yet the general attitude in the hobby seems to be that possessing, selling, trading, etc. NM alterna is sure to bring on the scrutiny of law enforcment specifically because few, if any, were ever collected prior to their take being banned in that state.



So which is it? Was overcollecting NM alterna a problem prior to their take being banned? Or, is it a defacto admission of guilt to have NM alterna, due to the fact that no specimens were collected prior to their take being banned? It can't be both.



For the record I don't really even desire NM alterna. There are plenty of other localities to choose from, but I was just curious about the apparent contradiction presented.












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