dusty,

You have let their arguments cloud the purpose of this thread. The purpose was to identify the fact that some people believe it is ok to produce herps for the masses. A huge number of them die slowly because the masses do not care for them properly. Some get upset because of round-ups which do serve a purpose for the communities and the reptiles are "used" in their entirety.

When someone who can say that if they produce a herp and then do what they want to with it, even kill it, that is what I call hypocricy.

I never compared the captive herps with the taking of wild herps. I merely pointed out that if it were not for the taking of wild herps there would be no captive breeding nor the ability to add diversity to the captive breeding. Seems that captive breeders still do take wild animals to further their monetary gains, that is what I am talking about with hypocricy.

I am saying that if the breeders do not want ridicule, then how can they ridicule others.

I am saying stop the "rock throwing". It does work both ways.

ECTimaeus

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