Hypocricy is the issue. I have asked if breeders or collectors are exploiting herps. The answer if you want to call it one, is that nothing is being taken out of the wild so it does not make a difference. That is not an answer. So if you do not want to answer and instead provide an argumentative response, then I would submit that it is an argument? Answer the accusation then, do you exploit herps? You want answers from me but will not answer. So, maybe you are wasting my time.

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