"1) What would you say about a person that misrepresents captive bred offspring for wild-caught animals? "

I would say that that is not someone who should be trusted. (provided it could be proven that they misrepresented such)

"2) What would you say about a breeder that has had a number of documented mixups and has been caught in a few lies? "

Again, that person should not be trusted, at least for a while to gain a track record that they have learned from their mistakes and attempted to turn over a new leaf. (again, provided that there is documentation of the mixups.)

"3) What would you say about this same breeder if he apparently lied about the reason for dumping his collection? "

Is the motive really important? This is immaterial to the other issues.

"4) What would you say about this same breeder again if the real motive for dumping his collection was obtaining cash so he could divorce his wife and skip to Mexico. "

Again, ancillary to the other real issues. What difference would it make why someone chose to sell his/her collection?

"***if*** all that I laid out here to you is true, would you say that these persons had/have the “utmost” integrity?"

Not utmost, particularly if the lies/misrepresentation are documented.

I find it continually laughable that you attempt to bring up 'my particular controversy.' To me there is nothing necessarily controversial about it. I've never bragged about animals that I've caught, never misrepresented them, never attempted to charge ridiculous amounts of money for them, nor had any motive other than truth about what I produce and/or sell. And more importantly to the point, nothing has ever been proven otherwise. Keep bringing it up as many times as you want. You cannot start a fire without fuel. Were you secretly riding in my trunk and can tell everyone that I didn't collect the animals?

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