"1) What would you say about a person that misrepresents captive bred offspring for wild-caught animals? "

I would say that that is not someone who should be trusted. (provided it could be proven that they misrepresented such).

>I think we both agree.

"2) What would you say about a breeder that has had a number of documented mixups and has been caught in a few lies? "

Again, that person should not be trusted, at least for a while to gain a track record that they have learned from their mistakes and attempted to turn over a new leaf. (again, provided that there is documentation of the mixups.)

> Here, we agree (again), but suppose this breeder blamed everyone but himself for the mistakes?

"3) What would you say about this same breeder if he apparently lied about the reason for dumping his collection? "

Is the motive really important? This is immaterial to the other issues.

> It is very important if it discloses a pattern of lying and of an attempt to conceal the truth, AGAIN.

"4) What would you say about this same breeder again if the real motive for dumping his collection was obtaining cash so he could divorce his wife and skip to Mexico. "

Again, ancillary to the other real issues. What difference would it make why someone chose to sell his/her collection?

>Again, same answer as three.

"***if*** all that I laid out here to you is true, would you say that these persons had/have the “utmost” integrity?"

Not utmost, particularly if the lies/misrepresentation are documented.

>Actually, not “utmost” or any other form of integrity. Here, I think we agree again.

I find it continually laughable that you attempt to bring up 'my particular controversy.' To me there is nothing necessarily controversial about it.

>This is the point. YOU may be the only one in the US that doesn’t think there is a controversy. Do you know what the word controversy means? Controversy = dispute. It takes TWO to have a dispute. Do you deny your claim is disputed by well respected alterna people familiar with the area?

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