You are dead-on in your impressions! They almost look like intergrades to me. I have Greenhorn animals pipping right now with one more clutch to go. I have no doubt the latter will be far larger at birth than the Coastals. One of my breeder males is 40" long...a certified beast!

I tried Mitch Mulk's proven theory and incubated these in the low 70s hoping to increase the red and decrease the black intrusion into the red dorsally. This locality is soo variiable as it is! Can't wait to see how they turn out.

The N. Az. Milks are the topic of much debate....which I will stay away from. I'd be satisfied just finding one....I'll leave the classification argument to those with far more experience. I'm sure the eventual DNA tests will shed huge light on this.

Bill

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