there are a couple guys producing those.. there is a guy up north that has been producing them since the early 2000's.. he would only sell his entire clutches, so not many people knew about them..M. Jolliff bought a whole clutch back in 04' or 05' for $10,000... now Shane Mader is producing them and coming up with his own names for them rather than calling them what they are, melanistic caramel albinos or melanistic albinos...believe he is calling melanistic albinos xanthics.. don't think he gets the concept of melanistic and albino in one animal...

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