Thanks, Once my babies plastrom fully heals over at the yoak sack site I give them a ruffer substrate like bark chips and cypress mulch,and cork bark so there is some "resistance" bumps and lumps to climb over when they walk as opposed to paper or moss and soft stuff were their legs just "slide" outward like their swimming. I even tilt the container and make them walk up hill to the food.!HUNGGAULLA-TIMBA*(j.wisemiller/Tarzan) little one. Vic, tortoise drill sargent.

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