GAH... Yes, I read the thread. No, I wasn't jumping to anyone's aid in particular.

Sure, they'll bask when people aren't around. OBVIOUSLY. That doesn't mean that the lights need to be on 24/7 if the monitors are given the privacy to bask on their own accord. Yes, we all love your Retes stack. They can also just as easily burrow in to the ground for a heat gradient and shelter, so long as you're giving them the amount of substrate they need.

"Reptiles, and monitors are reptiles"... Thanks. I really needed your adept commentation on that one. How could I EVER have guess that a monitor lizard is a reptile. Next time I forget what a booger is, you'll certainly be my go to on the subject.

I'm very much so aware of what a "pet shop" setup is. Like I said, I'm the guy who goes to the stores and [bleep]es at them for how they run things.

No, my concerns are not on myself. I couldn't even begin to explain to you the sacrifices I've made for monitor lizards. They get the same treatment(on the level of) as say, somebodies only best friend.

I suppose no one here agrees with me, I just feel we should be working together. I do not like the general jackass uneducated jail-bate "reptile person", which is why I'd hoped to come across better than that on the forums. In some ways I have, in some ways I haven't. Those "reptile people" have nothing to offer me, though the rest of you herpers on these forums have plenty to offer, which is why I'm on here. That doesn't mean I want to be badgered and treated in such a condescending manner by a highly reputable monitor breeder.

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