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Just Got an Everglades

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Posted by: Ameron at Mon Nov 21 16:28:13 2011  [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by Ameron ]  
   

I've been reading about all the "pure" racial talk regarding Everglades and whether they are intergrades with Yellows.



Reminds me that most Forum Members are not of "pure" blood, either. Most are Anglo-Saxon/Celt hybrids, which make up most of the population of North America, the United Kingdom, Australia and New Zealand. Some may be further intergraded.



From what I've gathered on the topic of Everglades traits, I agree with Members who state that the situation with Yellow intergrades is likely what it always has been:



There will always be individual traits, with few specimens having the "pure" traits so often mentioned. Some Yellow rats will be orange; some Everglades rats will have impurities.



My Everglades has orange/red eyes & tongue, but he has stripes still, and faded shadows of remnant saddles between the stripes. He is an Everglades, nonetheless, whether or not he is bright red, or patternless.



Based on your photo and snake traits, I feel that your snaek is an Intergrade between an Everglades and a Gray. (He may also be a three-way intergrade involving a Yellow.)



He may not have the "pure" traits you seek for breeding, but he is likely a great snake that will bring you years of joy and amazement.



Ameron

Portland, OR



0.1 Lampropeltis getula california (Los Angeles County morph)

1.0 Pantherophis obsoletus rossalleni


   

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