To bad, whenever I breed a new species, I think of the offspring as the animals I work with. They are the important ones.

Please no offense, starting with wild caught adults has two things. One is, they have been raised up and are ready to go. Thats the good part, and two, they can be totally screwed up from capture and import.

So when starting with them, you either get lucky or unlucky. But they are not products of your husbandry regime. So you really do not learn a lot. Remember, that is in perspective to what you will learn after allowing several generations. learning from egg to egg.

Again I congratulate you for supporting those clutches, but its the continued success that really teaches you what is needed.

I think this is the area where I have problems with others. They think on the same plane as you, while what I think is based on achieving generations. What allows some success with one female, may not be what allows success with many females.

One thing is for sure, working with larger monitors you cannot gain the numbers you can with small monitors. They just require so much larger cages. So learning will take much longer.

The problem here is, with larger varanids, it will take many many keepers to gain the experience that one keeper can with smaller monitors, in the same amount of time.

The problem is, people are not willing to take about their failures, and that is where we learn. Its that human ego or pride thing. Unfortunately, its about the monitors. And they could give a crap about our pride or egos. They just go on dying. Too bad. Have a great day

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