For me, this isn't about Andrew, USARK, or even burms, af-rocks and condas. It's about the bad behavior we have all witnessed from factions from within our government. It’s about being fed up and angry that they can, and do, operate with such disregard for ethics.

Personally, I support several organizations that are "engaged" in the various "fights", some national, and some local. I don't agree with any of them 100% of the time, nor do I agree with 100% of their views/actions, but that is to be expected. Just so you know, in addition to USARK, I am also a member of PIJAC, OAAO, and ZAA. In reading some of your other posts, you seem to be really anti-Andrew/USARK, and very pro-PIJAC. I’m not sure what that’s all about, but I guess it’s a “need-to-know” situation, and I don’t need to know…

To be honest, based solely on my affiliation with both organizations, I can't say that I have witnessed activity from PIJAC that warrants so much praise. I agree that they have longevity and more legal power on staff, compared to USARK, but for reptile related activities/issues, I am not aware of anything they have done recently to be impressed with. To be fair, they do not consult with me, nor inform me of their activity, so they could be doing something … I am only saying that I am completely unaware, if they are.

I also want to be clear that I do support a USARK vs. PIJAC show-down. I don’t think it has to be “either-or”. I think each have their place, and if they could forge a serious relationship as allies, cooperating, collaborating and working in unison, they could be incredibly effective.

Mark

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