"Ameron",

I am glad I provided a "helpful" article, but which of the three (3) Wikipedia articles are You referring to? Sorry, but having been over two (2) months ago, and too lazy to read again, I forget.

Agreed, many people stick to old nomenclature, or hint it somehow, and it often makes most sense to. Take the Heterodon nasicus (Western Hognose) complex as a perfect example: it used to be H. n. nasicus (nominate species); H. n. gloydi (Dusty Hognose); and H. n. kennerlyi (Mexican Hognose). As of 2004, I believe, all subspecies status was done away with, and the Western and Dusty were merged into simply H. nasicus, and the Mexican Hognose granted its own species status as H. kennerlyi. Yet some still refer to a Heterodon "gloydi" nasicus phase of the Western Hognose.

Anyway, yeah, We old-schoolers can't change sometimes, or We do so ever so slowly. But not changing and remaining stagnant "just because", or because We simply don't like change and/or are just stubborn (and not accepting) is just ridiculous and irrational IF the changes make sense. Now, in the case of Elaphe/Pantherophis, the changes aren't exactly justified, I further agree, and therefore people who stick to old nomenclature don't bother me. Sometimes, even, it's best to hyphenate or slash new and old names like I did in the preceding sentence, at least in initial conversation, so all parties can make the link/connection.

Thanks for acknowledging and responding to my post!! I thought it was a good topic, heh.

Sincerely,
Timothy
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T.J. Gould

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