RE: Obsoleta range?

Posted by: tbrock at Wed Jul 25 00:45:45 2012 [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by tbrock ]

Some good maps there, Doug - however, I am more in favor of the maps in Dixon's and Werler's "Texas Snakes" books (2000 and 2005) - which puts lindheimeri only ranging as far south as southern Nueces or maybe into the very northern tip of Kleberg Counties in Texas. This is well north of where all of the maps you posted have them ranging to. I have found lots of lindheimeri in Nueces County, but have never seen one south of southwestern Nueces...

Pantherophis bairdi is a different story and definitely ranges well into Mexico - and I still consider bairdi to be part of the Pantherophis obsoletus complex, myself - I don't agree with the split...
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-Toby Brock

Southwestern Center for Herpetological Research

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Obsoleta range? - Ryan_Sikola, Tue Jul 24 00:32:13 2012

RE: Obsoleta range? - DMong, Tue Jul 24 13:07:08 2012

RE: Obsoleta range? - tbrock, Wed Jul 25 00:45:45 2012

And - another map... - tbrock, Wed Jul 25 12:14:55 2012

RE: And - another map... - DMong, Thu Jul 26 12:28:35 2012

RE: And - another map... - tbrock, Thu Jul 26 21:28:45 2012

RE: And - another map... - DMong, Fri Jul 27 11:52:22 2012

RE: And - another map... - tbrock, Fri Jul 27 19:28:56 2012

RE: And - another map... - Ryan_Sikola, Sat Jul 28 00:39:20 2012

RE: And - another map... - tbrock, Sat Jul 28 12:05:00 2012

RE: And - another map... - chrish, Sun Jul 29 22:20:04 2012

RE: And - another map... - DMong, Sat Jul 28 01:46:01 2012

RE: And - another map... - tbrock, Sat Jul 28 12:22:46 2012

RE: And - another map... - DMong, Sat Jul 28 14:32:26 2012

RE: And - another map... - tbrock, Sat Jul 28 15:54:37 2012

RE: And - another map... - DMong, Sat Jul 28 18:52:18 2012

RE: Obsoleta range? - chrish, Sun Jul 29 22:26:55 2012

RE: Obsoleta range? - tbrock, Mon Jul 30 06:35:58 2012

Also... - tbrock, Mon Jul 30 12:19:51 2012

obsoleta x bairdii hybrids - chrish, Mon Jul 30 13:21:11 2012

RE: obsoleta x bairdii hybrids - DMong, Mon Jul 30 14:31:54 2012

RE: obsoleta x bairdii hybrids - chrish, Mon Jul 30 15:13:56 2012

RE: obsoleta x bairdii hybrids - DMong, Mon Jul 30 16:29:04 2012

RE: obsoleta x bairdii hybrids - tbrock, Mon Jul 30 14:31:56 2012

another photo of it - chrish, Mon Jul 30 15:10:16 2012

RE: another photo of it - DMong, Mon Jul 30 16:34:37 2012

RE: another photo of it - draybar, Sun Aug 5 08:40:05 2012

RE: another photo of it - chrish, Wed Aug 8 15:20:11 2012

RE: another photo of it - draybar, Wed Aug 8 17:20:11 2012

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