The male is about 6" (snout-to-vent), & the female is about 2" smaller. That 2" looks like a lot but they are getting along well, basking together & racing for the kale, which is what they favor.

I did see something disturbing tonight...in 20 years of chuck husbandry, I have NEVER seen one urinate....I always assumed that the white ures was solid or at least gooey. Tonight, the male actually lifted up his haunches, & let go several big drops of clear liquid. Is this normal?

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