"In my opinion I think Klumpers are a form of albino. I respect yours and others opinions on this subject. I'm not saying I right and your wrong. Its just my opinion. A typical albinos have red eyes. I have hatched Klumpers with reds eyes before"



Simple question for you Jason and its not meant with any malice....



...do albinos have black tongues?





The problem I have with your 're-classification' of what Michel himself created and dubbed hypo as now being albino over 12 years on , is quite simple.........how can an albino have normal coloured eyes and a black tongue?



Michel himself used albino genectics to create the hypo so this is possibly why you are seeing albino types hatch out imo.

This is also maybe why the Klumpers are compatable with certain albinos.

Please remember I was working alongside Michel and breeding the snakes from him for a good few years BEFORE any hatchlings even made it to the U.S!!!



The FACT remains that I have that F1 from Michel that produces these snakes with the non albino traits (tongue ,eyes) and totally unlike any of the ones I've ever seen posted anywhere else.

This snake was a one of a kind female that Michel gifted to me and told me face to face it was up to me to prove out genetic, which of course I have.

The ones I'm seeing in the U.S are clearly not the same thing, for me if they have red tongues and /or red eyes they are not the same phenotype.



This pic clearly shows this snake has black on its neck,this is not an albino trait in my thinking.

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