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greeri sexing troubles.....

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Posted by: wohlerswi at Wed Jul 24 15:26:20 2013  [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by wohlerswi ]  
   

Hey Guys,
I have quite a few adult greeri (its actually my favorite kingsnake species) and recently acquired a couple animals to cross back into my stock to help diversify the bloodline. Everything is fine, but one of my newest acquisitions I purchased at Repticon Columbia this past week has me troubled. It was purchased as a female. The guy said he has trouble getting his pair to breed this season and thought it could have been from lack of a good enough brumation. He thought maybe they just didnt get cold enough. Well I know from experience greeri need to get pretty cold during brumation, so I thought his theory was completely valid. Anyway I had the guy probe it, unfortunately I wasnt in front of him when he probed it (I know I know, but I just couldnt be there at that moment and he had to borrow someone elses probes in order to reprobe it for me). I came back to check and see if he had luck finding someone to borrow their probes and he said yes and confirmed it was a female.

Now I got it home, and probed it and here is my issue. The thing probed 5 1/2 - 6 scales deep. I have 6 adult known proven females (proven by me so I know they are females 100%), and the deepest one of them probes is 4 scales. On the other hand I have 4 adult proven males, and the shallowest that one of them probes is 8-8 1/2 scales deep.

All my greeri have the same tail shape, male, and female. But my males tales are generally an inch or more longer than the females. I compared the unknown animals tail to every adult greeri I have, and its tail is about the same length as all my females. They all vary a bit but I would say its tail is an inch shorter than any of my males.

It is also a fairly large and robust greeri. I cannot remember what it weighed right off hand but I think in the 300 gram range, but if needed I can get an exact weight. I could also take tail pictures if it would help anyone.
Thanks for anyone that can help me solve this dilemma
Will Wohlers


   

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