Thank you and your so right, Whats odd to me is, Why is it about right or wrong, its a discussion board, that means, we offer a point of view. Its not about believing what you read.

I am stuck in limbo(in between) In between the hobbyist world and the scientific world. and I disturb both. To me they are or should be the same. Behaviorally, naturalistic observation, includes both. Only in biology is captivity dismissed, any case, that war has nothing to do with the animals, its also about people.

In this case, if I say something, like in science, you must offer something to back up what you say. In many cases, that is taken as condescending.

Myself, I will not take anything someone says as valuable, unless they can show me, the important stuff, how they came up with whatever they said. I never take it about a persons better or worse. Compared to nature, we are all worse. Sorry, thanks again.

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