A few years ago, an Australian herper and biologist published that most snakes and many lizards are indeed "venomous" and carry Croto toxins(same as in rattlesnakes), which can effect a bite. It does not matter if they are rear fanged or not.

many years ago, I attended a talk by Dr. Finly Russel. He included many cases of nasty bad bites from garder snakes, kingsnakes etc. Much worse then any of the rattlesnake bites I incurred. Hey, I am a hands person and touch things.

Such things as lyresnakes, have venom that actually kills their prey. I am not sure that is true for hogs. They simply swallow their prey alive. I also think they are/were, egg specialists, now or at some point in the past.

To me the subject is nonsense, and at some point it has to be pointed out. Behavior(ethology) in humans, places blame in "optional" areas so they do not have to face real blame. For instance, dogs kill more people, disfigure more kids, then all the snakes of the world wild or otherwise. Smoking, kills more people, destroys more lives then all the dogs in the world many times over. There are factories and university departments going full time making and designing weapons to blow people to pieces. From tiny weapons to weapons of mass destruction. Full time, 24/7/365. and WE are paying for that with our money.

So HOGNOSE, hmmmmmmmmmmmm they will do it(prohibit them) because they can. and that's the only reason, whatever you say will not make a difference. I was told directly face to face, by a Fish and wildlife higher up, its not about logic, or conservation, we simply do what we can. And things that are limited and WEAK(politically) we can have our way with. The government uses the entire country(tax base) to fight the very few who would stand up for hognose or pythons. They, fish and wildlife, do it, because they can, which means, they cannot do what is important, conservation and management for the people. Their actual mission statement. Cheers

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