Frank, I do not believe anyone tried to compare hogs to crotalids. There is a huge difference in venom potency and delivery. However, the fact that hogs are rear fanged and have a less effective delivery system couple with a mild venom, this does not make them nonvenomous. I do not consider hogs to even remotely dangerous. I have kept and bred some of the most dangerous vipers in the world so for me, hogs are completely harmless.

Calling them "toxic" does not change the fact that they have venom inside venom glands with rear fangs to administer the venom. I do not understand the logic.

There are no recorded loss of life or limb due to a hognose bite. That still does not take away the fact that they are indeed a rear fanged venomous colubrid.

As I type this, I am scratching my ankle where a spider bit me. All spiders are venomous but there are very few that are medically significant.

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