P.s This is the real reason Gregg is now staying out of these posts backing up his buddy, He has a reputaion to lose in Europe, Troy does not.. So has to be more careful whether what he is writing is RIGHT, And Troy does not just deal in hognoses so he will feel nothing from it but Greggs world extends past the states and its already having a effect in 48hrs, IT went off like a bomb last night on facebook, As i added all these posts, including the one that was deleted but saved it when i saw what was happening..117 likes and rising of which more than half are Herpers... Troy = lol right now, Were you at the show this month in Hamm Gregg? It was awesome got some cool hogs that i am flying over any day now back to the states always the most annoying part as you probly may know, As some of you all know Gregg is in John Berrys Hognose Morphs book, What i learnt about hognoses, from John and other Herpetoculturists in England, Germany and Holland, I am lucky of knowing though shows and reptile seminars that i attended over YEARS, Troy is fundamentally wrong about stress in Hognoses, Envenomation is more tricky and is very well still ongoing debate as John puts it..But again read the book and make your own mind up don't let Troy do it for you, Deep down Gregg you know Troy is wrong in this (Stress) in hognoses, Of course in his last post he trys to make himself look like he does lol but does it in a way that suits him no honesty, If you think anything of John as a Herpetoculturist....... But you are just are hoping this will blow over, Instead for once to question him like you ALWAYS love doing to us, Or do you share his views on this?

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