The actual problem is and I already mentioned it long ago here.



Folks TWEAK and trick and fool with tricking individuals with tuna and salmon and all such. Yet they treat shoebox recipe husbandry(minimal support) as a standard. Newbies, young folks, and nice as they are, are taught by RECIPE, they play follow the leader and never learn about the animal. All they learn is how an advanced keeper has narrowed it down to zero plus or minus 1.(for the animal) because they have too many animals to care for properly.



Gregg keeps animals in racks, but he recognizes if when something is not right, then addresses it. If your going to apply shoebox husbandry, then learn that method. Not trickery and tweaking.



Such books as That morph book, offer a horrible understanding of these animals. Then the author is NOT FROM HERE. Or hes being nice and commerical(to sell books) So again, folks learn the easiest not even close to what supports the animal.



Lastly, your post, your comments, seem to indicate its not known and we should try to learn. Again this is the bothersome part, it was known and applied for 3 decades and is now disappearing because of quick easy information. and the follow the leader mentality. Its no longer about learning or the joy of learning. Its about baseball card keeping(ask if you don't understand) and as little as possible.



Remember, I or no one is saying all or nothing. I am only hoping for some of that all. Unfortunately its going the other way.



The real lastly, every time I come back from the field, I get like this. I flat do not understand why folks REFUSE to enjoy hognose. They are amazing. Best to you

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